Stokes injured in the Hundred. Who steps up to be England captain ?

[FBU]

Got a feeling that Stokes will be in the England dressing rooms for the three Tests and not sitting at home.

 

[peterhrt]

I hadn't got as far as checking Leach's tests. It's possible that he played as well as another spinner at some point.

Leach played one match with Moeen Ali against Ireland at Lord's in 2019. They bowled seven overs between them.

Two spinners at home was fairly normal for England until the 1990s. You mentioned Croft and Giles in 1998. There were five other examples during that decade. None brought victory. Such and Tufnell teamed up three times, Such and Emburey once, and Croft and Salisbury once.

All instances since have been referenced in the thread. There have been none since 2019.

 

[CartyDurham]

Here's an example from 1998, with Croft and Giles both playing.

ENG vs SA Cricket Scorecard, 3rd Test at Manchester, July 02 - 06, 1998

Get cricket scorecard of 3rd Test, ENG vs SA, South Africa tour of England 1998 at Old Trafford, Manchester dated July 02 - 06, 1998.

www.espncricinfo.com

Not especially successful.

More recently, Swann and Panesar both played at Cardiff in 2009.

ENG vs AUS Cricket Scorecard, 1st Test at Cardiff, July 08 - 12, 2009

Get cricket scorecard of 1st Test, ENG vs AUS, Australia tour of England and Scotland 2009 at Sophia Gardens, Cardiff dated July 08 - 12, 2009.

www.espncricinfo.com

Also not hugely successful.


This was more like it; Moeen and Dawson against SA at Lord's in 2017

ENG vs SA Cricket Scorecard, 1st Test at London, July 06 - 09, 2017

Get cricket scorecard of 1st Test, ENG vs SA, SA tour of England 2017 at Lord's, London dated July 06 - 09, 2017.

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And again in the same series.

ENG vs SA Cricket Scorecard, 2nd Test at Nottingham, July 14 - 17, 2017

Get cricket scorecard of 2nd Test, ENG vs SA, SA tour of England 2017 at Trent Bridge, Nottingham dated July 14 - 17, 2017.

www.espncricinfo.com

Moeen and Rashid for two of the tests against India in 2018
At Southampton

ENG vs IND Cricket Scorecard, 4th Test at Southampton, August 30 - September 02, 2018

Get cricket scorecard of 4th Test, ENG vs IND, India tour of England 2018 at The Rose Bowl, Southampton dated August 30 - September 02, 2018.

www.espncricinfo.com

And at The Oval

ENG vs IND Cricket Scorecard, 5th Test at London, September 07 - 11, 2018

Get cricket scorecard of 5th Test, ENG vs IND, India tour of England 2018 at Kennington Oval, London dated September 07 - 11, 2018.

www.espncricinfo.com

Cheers. Great info

 

[reyrey]

Liam Dawson got a home summer alongside Mo at one point I think, vs South Africa I want to say.

Edit: yep looking it up, was 2017. Mo and Rashid also played together, the following home summer vs India.

I would have really liked them to have continued with the Moeen and Dawson combo. Moeen with the ball used as a partnership breaker and in the 3rd/4th innings where he could be a match winner. Dawson doing the hold up an end role. Both bring plenty in other areas of the game too.

Thanks to the allrounders available at the time and JB keeping and batting at 5, England could have gone with the Moeen /Dawson combo, and still easily have 4 quicks in the side.