Stokes Arrested

[S.Kennedy]

Why would the prosecution call them?

If they held testimony indicting the defendants, why wouldn't they? The two gays would know more than anyone whether or not the ''banter'' outside the nightclub was just that, ''banter'' - or something more sinister.

 

[Burgey]

They don't need them. They've got the CCTV footage. If Stokes wants to rebut the CCTV footage he can call them.

Anyway, only those involved in the trial know reasons why people are called or not. The report they aren't giving evidence was in the Daily Fail after all. It's probably bullshit.

 

[Burgey]

Well Stokes delivered up a pack of lies pertaining to the discussion outside the nightclub, which were exposed as they have cctv footage! The prosecution have been very much obsessed with this nightclub encounter. Stokes's lawyer should undermine its relevancy.

His best chance is the fact Ryan Ali was swinging a bottle around, hitting one of the gay chaps and going for Hales (half wish he succeeded as I think Hales is a first grade wanker!), before Stokes began fighting.

Just on this, if it got into evidence, it's relevant. I don't know whether his lawyer objected to it going in or not.

 

[S.Kennedy]

They don't need them. They've got the CCTV footage. If Stokes wants to rebut the CCTV footage he can call them.

Anyway, only those involved in the trial know reasons why people are called or not. The report they aren't giving evidence was in the Daily Fail after all. It's probably bullshit.

We'll see if we'll see the gays.

One thing which I think has surprised people is the prosecution's focus on the nightclub ''banter''. They are trying to put across that Stokes was in an aggressive mood here and that dictated subsequent events. I suspect Stokes's lawyer will try to stress its irrelevancy.

 

[fredfertang]

The prosecution don’t have to call evidence that undermines their case. What they are obliged to do is disclose its existence, not that the fact these two exist is gioing to take anyone by surprised. What I would expect to have happened is that the police took statements which didn’t help their case and that the statements would then have appeared in the unused material. I would then have expected Stokes lawyers to have called them and I’m still not convinced they won’t - I certainly wouldn’t put it past the Mail to have not understood that there is a difference between prosecution witnesses and defence witnesses

 

[S.Kennedy]

The prosecution don’t have to call evidence that undermines their case. What they are obliged to do is disclose its existence, not that the fact these two exist is gioing to take anyone by surprised. What I would expect to have happened is that the police took statements which didn’t help their case and that the statements would then have appeared in the unused material. I would then have expected Stokes lawyers to have called them and I’m still not convinced they won’t - I certainly wouldn’t put it past the Mail to have not understood that there is a difference between prosecution witnesses and defence witnesses

The gays account to the Mirror or Sun awhile back was full of inconsistencies and factual errors. I wonder if they're deemed unreliable witnesses - they were most likely drunk too.

 

[fredfertang]

The gays account to the Mirror or Sun awhile back was full of inconsistencies and factual errors. I wonder if they're deemed unreliable witnesses - they were most likely drunk too.

I wonder if the Sun paid them?

And if so how much

 

[S.Kennedy]

I wonder if the Sun paid them?

And if so how much

The journalism has been shocking. I keep reading that the fight occurred outside the nightclub whereas in reality it occurred quite a distance away outside a Natwest and a bridal shop!

 

[Zinzan]

This birds-eye footage doesn't look good for Stokes.

 

[Howe_zat]

Stokes denies homophobic comments
The England cricketer said he had had up to three pints and six vodka and lemonades but was not drunk.

Every time a new statement comes out it's like a thesis from the university of thick

 

[Starfighter]

Stokes denies homophobic comments
The England cricketer said he had had up to three pints and six vodka and lemonades but was not drunk.

WHAT?

Every time a new statement comes out it's like a thesis from the university of thick

Yep.

 

[Moonsorrow999]

I'd be drunk off just the 3 pints I think! XD

 

[flibbertyjibber]

Lightweight

 

[S.Kennedy]

He was raised in the North East. Three pints and six vodkas is like a can of Shandy Bass up here.

 

[Gnske]

Stokes should plead that the cigarettes clouded his judgement. It's the only way to get out completely clean.

 

[S.Kennedy]

If you want to follow it live,

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/cricket/ben-stokes-trial-live-latest-13038593

He is being questioned by the prosecution now and it is going completely tit's up for him!

 

[S.Kennedy]

Stokes probed on how much he actually did drink that night

Mr Corsellis asks if Stokes is telling the truth about the amount of alcohol he had that night.

Stokes replies yes but the “could have had a few Jaeger bombs inside Mbargo.”

He adds: “We were not on a mission but out to have a good time.”

Oh dear. It is going pear shaped. His lawyer hasn't instructed him very well I fear

 

[Spikey]

is it too late to plead insanity

 

[StephenZA]

Oh dear. It is going pear shaped. His lawyer hasn't instructed him very well I fear

No instruction stops stupidity...

 

[dontcloseyoureyes]

This is very enjoyable.