South Africa team selection

[Dendarii]

Who does Piedt have an SA20 contract with?

Google's not throwing up anything, but if he has an SA20 contract then why did he play in this series? I thought the point was to only pick players who would be available to go to New Zealand.

 

[WpGuy]

Massive win for the SA A team in the second test . Reynard van Tonder getting back to back half centuries and Pietersen backing up his first innings half century with a ton in the . Concerns regarding the rest of the batsman to convert starts however most at least getting runs . Strangely on the bowling side it was Piedt standing out with the best bowling performance between the two tests played and he has a SA20 contract , leading to questions of how our pace attack and bowling attack in general will look for the tour . Moreki did the best of all the seam bowlers over the two tests .

With 1 test left , non many showing that they are undisputedly ready for the challenges of international tests .

De Swart did well and Mpongwana more bowling wise.

 

[WpGuy]

Google's not throwing up anything, but if he has an SA20 contract then why did he play in this series? I thought the point was to only pick players who would be available to go to New Zealand.

He doesn't.

 

[Kenneth Viljoen]

There's the youngster playing for the Titans called Merrick Brett , 22 years old seamer ..He's bloody good , can bat aswell ..

 

[Krypto]

Who does Piedt have an SA20 contract with?

My mistake apologies.

 

[Krypto]

De Swart did well and Mpongwana more bowling wise.

Yea they contrabuted but didn't stand out. As a team batting unit it looks solid but concerned if they can score big so very similar to the main side. This situation is a one of the best oppertunities for these batsman to show they can compete for one of the main spots. With the bowling it's odds and ends should be an interesting nz tour

 

[Bahseph]

Apparently Shukri personally made a plea for Piedt to return to SA for this Tour so he is definitely playing those Two Tests. I forgot Dane Patterson was a thing. I always felt he was decent but not Test class.

 

[Stefan9]

Bavuma 'rested' for India white-ball series

Temba Bavuma is expected to miss the Proteas' T20I and ODI series against India this month.

www.sacricketmag.com

 

[Nintendo]

Bavuma 'rested' for India white-ball series

Temba Bavuma is expected to miss the Proteas' T20I and ODI series against India this month.

www.sacricketmag.com

What do the SA posters here think about bavuma sticking around until the 2027 ODI wc? I'm a bit conflicted on it. He's only 34 so he won't be THAT old come the WC, and he was great in the cycle between the last 2 WC's. He's also already got a bad injury history and is coming off a terrible WC, so it's hard to say for me.

 

[Stefan9]

What do the SA posters here think about bavuma sticking around until the 2027 ODI wc? I'm a bit conflicted on it. He's only 34 so he won't be THAT old come the WC, and he was great in the cycle between the last 2 WC's. He's also already got a bad injury history and is coming off a terrible WC, so it's hard to say for me.

Prefer him to move on and only focus on red ball cricket.

 

[Krypto]

What do the SA posters here think about bavuma sticking around until the 2027 ODI wc? I'm a bit conflicted on it. He's only 34 so he won't be THAT old come the WC, and he was great in the cycle between the last 2 WC's. He's also already got a bad injury history and is coming off a terrible WC, so it's hard to say for me.

Honestly Bavuma has bruaght forward again a topic very common for South African cricket and that is form and ability over politics. As a older fan I still keep this sentiment, if he is good enough let him play if he doesn't perform, drop or replace him. He shouldn't have played more that 2 games this WC due to form and thats truth but does he possess the skills to play in ODI, definetly. Do we have the liberty to select squads in this manner? Not sure anymore. In this world cup without politics we might have had cricketers like Faf, AB, Morris and Pretorius being in conversation now due to Bavuma the opposite is in question. Your question to SA fans is a difficult one as it is becoming more and more difficult to be a truthfull one.

 

[Socerer 01]

Honestly Bavuma has bruaght forward again a topic very common for South African cricket and that is form and ability over politics. As a older fan I still keep this sentiment, if he is good enough let him play if he doesn't perform, drop or replace him. He shouldn't have played more that 2 games this WC due to form and thats truth but does he possess the skills to play in ODI, definetly. Do we have the liberty to select squads in this manner? Not sure anymore. In this world cup without politics we might have had cricketers like Faf, AB, Morris and Pretorius being in conversation now due to Bavuma the opposite is in question. Your question to SA fans is a difficult one as it is becoming more and more difficult to be a truthfull one.

the de Villiers who retired 5 years ago internationally, 2 years ago from all forms and turned 39 last month being an option for this world cup is a big stretch

 

[Dendarii]

He shouldn't have played more that 2 games this WC due to form

What team drops their captain two matches into a major tournament?

 

[Krypto]

What team drops their captain two matches into a major tournament?

Bavuma scored 145 runs in 8 matches averaging 18 and not just his form was questioned but also injuries to caputulate this his replacement in Hendricks played 2 matches and scored 97 runs at 48 average. Who keeps a batsman in a world cup averaging 18 and expect to win it? Furthermore the games he didn't play obviously didn't hurt the Proteas it did the opposite. How and why are we defending that?

 

[Nintendo]

Bavuma scored 145 runs in 8 matches averaging 18 and not just his form was questioned but also injuries to caputulate this his replacement in Hendricks played 2 matches and scored 97 runs at 48 average. Who keeps a batsman in a world cup averaging 18 and expect to win it? Furthermore the games he didn't play obviously didn't hurt the Proteas it did the opposite. How and why are we defending that?

Do me a favour and look at both of there numbers leading into the WC, and reeza's career numbers in general. FFS reeza made a score at the wankhede vs england when there bowling was shite. Get a grip.

 

[Stefan9]

Bavuma scored 145 runs in 8 matches averaging 18 and not just his form was questioned but also injuries to caputulate this his replacement in Hendricks played 2 matches and scored 97 runs at 48 average. Who keeps a batsman in a world cup averaging 18 and expect to win it? Furthermore the games he didn't play obviously didn't hurt the Proteas it did the opposite. How and why are we defending that?

Because it has happened before and no one called for those captains to get dropped over their form.

Cronje averaged 13 in 1999 including 2 glorious ducks in a row vs Aus.
Smith 22 in 2011.

None of them were called selfish or were expected to make themselves unavailable.

 

[Krypto]

Do me a favour and look at both of there numbers leading into the WC, and reeza's career numbers in general. FFS reeza made a score at the wankhede vs england when there bowling was ****e. Get a grip.

That doesn't matter in a tournament. If any of the other batsman had that run of form in the WC would they have played 8 games. I am sincere in trying to understand how that is defendable or excepteble. Going on past performances to justify current bad performance is idiotic to me and in sport it's about results and you cannot hide your contrabutions. Regarding getting runs against bad bowling Bavuma got 8 against Sri Lanka and highest score was 35.

 

[Krypto]

Because it has happened before and no one called for those captains to get dropped over their form.

Cronje averaged 13 in 1999 including 2 glorious ducks in a row vs Aus.
Smith 22 in 2011.

None of them were called selfish or were expected to make themselves unavailable.

I don't think Cronje is a great example especially not when mentioning a tournament a year before his hearings in match fixing but also in very difficult to bring up his results if you look at the shocking way we lost games in that Era.

 

[Nintendo]

That doesn't matter in a tournament. If any of the other batsman had that run of form in the WC would they have played 8 games. I am sincere in trying to understand how that is defendable or excepteble. Going on past performances to justify current bad performance is idiotic to me and in sport it's about results and you cannot hide your contrabutions. Regarding getting runs against bad bowling Bavuma got 8 against Sri Lanka and highest score was 35.

" As a older fan I still keep this sentiment, if he is good enough let him play if he doesn't perform, drop or replace him. He shouldn't have played more that 2 games this WC due to form " quote from your older post.

So Australia should have dropped mitchell marsh and david warner after they both didn't make runs in the first 2 games in the WC, or should have dropped zampa after he didn't take wickets vs india and SA/not bowled him when halfway into the SL game he looked like he couldn't grip the ball? South africa's backup to bavuma was reeza hendricks, who, coming into that tournament, was as old as bavuma, averaged 30 overall in odi cricket despite batting top order basically his entire career, and wasn't in half the form bavuma was for the 2 years preceeding the WC.

In hindsight we can say that bavuma should have been dropped, but SA didn't have hindsight coming in. None of their top 4 made runs in the semi final vs SA, starc and haze bowled too well and AUS fielders stopped the few loose balls from being scored off. Reeza hendricks over bavuma wasn't gonna save that game realistically.

 

[Krypto]

" As a older fan I still keep this sentiment, if he is good enough let him play if he doesn't perform, drop or replace him. He shouldn't have played more that 2 games this WC due to form " quote from your older post.

So Australia should have dropped mitchell marsh and david warner after they both didn't make runs in the first 2 games in the WC, or should have dropped zampa after he didn't take wickets vs india and SA/not bowled him when halfway into the SL game he looked like he couldn't grip the ball? South africa's backup to bavuma was reeza hendricks, who, coming into that tournament, was as old as bavuma, averaged 30 overall in odi cricket despite batting top order basically his entire career, and wasn't in half the form bavuma was for the 2 years preceeding the WC.

In hindsight we can say that bavuma should have been dropped, but SA didn't have hindsight coming in. None of their top 4 made runs in the semi final vs SA, starc and haze bowled too well and AUS fielders stopped the few loose balls from being scored off. Reeza hendricks over bavuma wasn't gonna save that game realistically.

As a fan at that stage lost complete confidence in Bavuma and would prefer Hendricks and honestly that game was so close 20 rather than a duck might have made a difference. But my major annoyence on that was more the fact that he wasn't completely healed from injury. The fact that it still feels decisions aren't made on results is concerning to say the least.

And agree with your statement, I think the biggest difference is the players mentioned has earned that trust and confidence. I don't see that in Bavuma, can others say they do as that for me is surprising.