South Africa team selection

[Dendarii]

In a recent interview, Mignon du Preez said that she would love to see Wolvaardt play tests. I definitely agree with that as she looks like the type of player who would do well in the longer format. But she's still young, so she could get the opportunity if the women's game progresses to the point where tests become a regular thing.

 

[SeamUp]

Keeps finding a way to get out but there are no excuses anymore. We need to find out if the next guys have what it takes.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1354002614153736193

 

[SeamUp]

Also it is a standards thing. We can't leave Aiden out anytime soon if we keep Bavuma because he technically has a lot of cushion still left.

I just want to see KP, Van Tonder and Verreynne now.

 

[Dendarii]

If all the other batsmen were performing then I might be able to grudgingly accept Bavuma's inclusion looking at the bigger picture. But right now we can't afford to carry him if we want to be genuinely competitive.

 

[Bahseph]

35 scores under 20 in 70 innings is even worse than I thought it would be!

 

[StephenZA]

Honestly I am tired of the entire batting line-up at the moment. However you want to cut it even Faf and Elgar are only 40ish avg players. It is forcing us to play batsmen out of position, like the consistent ****ing around with QDK who really should be batting 6/7 in a decent Test line-up. We consistently keep picking journey man cricketers due to 'experience' when we actually have plenty of young talent. I would much rather us not score 200 with 4 debutants batting than carry on with this ****.

 

[TT Boy]

You have Markram averaging 10 in Asia, Faf almost sub 20, de Kock less than 30 at 5, a perpetually iffy van der Dussen at 3 and Bavuma at 6 who struggles to get into the twenties. It isn't very good, and I doubt it will be very different for the Australian series.

 

[Bahseph]

This is why I brought up the point about Mulder + Linde. Working within the confines of the squad I don't see how much more value Ngidi adds than Mulder when we do have the above mentioned issues with the batting. If they aren't going to take a bold step and move forward with young talent then be pragmatic.

 

[SeamUp]

Am I being a dick by saying our modern highveld batsman (who seem to be scoring most of our domestic runs) have no real ground work against spin ?

Maybe we should also ask why are our coastal batsmen are not progressing to bring more balance ?

 

[StephenZA]

Am I being a dick by saying our modern highveld batsman (who seem to be scoring most of our domestic runs) have no real ground work against spin ?

Maybe we should also ask why are our coastal batsmen are not progressing to bring more balance ?

I still think Hamza was not treated well... I know he has gone off the boil, but he is a quality player.

And can somebody explain why QDK is captain, if Faf is doing all the pep talks? It is not because QDK is brilliant in front of the camera! Is it to try simplify DRS decisions?

 

[SeamUp]

I still think Hamza was not treated well... I know he has gone off the boil, but he is a quality player.

And can somebody explain why QDK is captain, if Faf is doing all the pep talks? It is not because QDK is brilliant in front of the camera! Is it to try simplify DRS decisions?

Both him and Stiaan were poorly treated.

Got to hope he gains his resolve to start scoring runs again.

 

[SeamUp]

Averages in the sub-continent for SA. Obviously includes some early Bangladesh series.

 

[Rasimione]

Bavuma is not a test match batsmen. It's sad seeing him struggle like this let him go back to domestic cricket and get his confidence back. As things stand, we don't have a top 6 capable of consistent runs.

 

[StephenZA]

Both him and Stiaan were poorly treated.

Got to hope he gains his resolve to start scoring runs again.

Stiaan was not treated well. But he was in and out because we largely had a settled batting lineup with a few injuries and Duminy problem.

Hamza was picked played 4 games and has been summarily dismissed in a batting line that had no consistent run scorers.

 

[StephenZA]

Averages in the sub-continent for SA. Obviously includes some early Bangladesh series.

We also need to be honest. We had Kallis for 15 years. And a brilliant 2003 to 2010 class that was always going to be difficult to replace.

Not that they are actually trying to replace?!

 

[SeamUp]

We also need to be honest. We had Kallis for 15 years. And a brilliant 2003 to 2010 class that was always going to be difficult to replace.

Not that they are actually trying to replace?!

Very much so but even before then we were very competitive in the sub-continent so something somewhere has gone wrong in recent years.

We beat in India in India, beat Sri Lanka in Sri Lanka and beat Pakistan in Pakistan from 1993 to 2000

 

[vcs]

I think SA's 90s batsmen were pretty average against spin (see their struggles against Warne) but Donald/Pollock kept them in it and Kirsten was pretty good and guys like Symcox would always chip in. Class of 2010 lineup (Smith/Amla/Kallis/De Villiers) was an ATG batting lineup across conditions though.

 

[StephenZA]

Yeah. We don’t have the batting in the tail we had in the 90’s. I do think we have better depth in bowling quality now.

 

[SeamUp]

I think SA's 90s batsmen were pretty average against spin (see their struggles against Warne) but Donald/Pollock kept them in it and Kirsten was pretty good and guys like Symcox would always chip in. Class of 2010 lineup (Smith/Amla/Kallis/De Villiers) was an ATG batting lineup across conditions though.

Gary & Daryl were by far our best batsmen and pretty adaptable. McMillan basically averaged 40 too which was nothing to sneeze at in the period.

Think the decade started with us giving some hardened pro's like Cook, P.Kirsten, Wessels & Hudson goes and by the end of the decade Gibbs & Kallis were fairly decent addition to Gary/Daryl.

Even Hansie/Jonty they were far better than a lot of the batsmen we've tried over the years so it was always able to do enough with the class of our bowling & depth of batting.

 

[Heboric]

Well done ladies on series whitewash.

Jeepers that umpire is younger than most of the players (barring that 19 year old from Pakistan)