So the ICC evidence is finally in - and apparently even Glen McGrath chucks...

[Migara]

Oh dear.

:facepalm:

 

[Daemon]

If testing, test everybody. Otherwise allow everybody.

 

[BoyBrumby]

Ha ha, touched that raw nerve. Now what is the certainly that clean actions are in fact clean? The classic example of looks like Malaria, so should be Malaria stuff!

Using what ever scientific methods they showed McGrath and Pollock, two bowlers with most "purist friendly" actions gets borderline with extension. In fact some of the actions seems "clean" may be "dirtier" than seemingly dodgy ones. The resistance to checking the "clean" actions comes through the process that finding might shatter the fantasies of the purists.

Take this nugget: "If you think your eye is that great, why chicken out from testing?"

This guy. He's a laugh riot.

On the off chance you're actually being serious, let's take those points slowly.

McGrath & Pollock were mentioned in the original report? Nope. McGrath & Pollock tested in a lab? Nope. Does the technology exist to accurately measure degrees of flexion in a match situation? Nope.

So where's your evidence anyone with a quote-unquote "clean" action throws? That's rhetorical, by the way: there's none. That being so why waste time, money and effort "proving" what is already apparent?

But thanks for playing.

 

[Migara]

This guy. He's a laugh riot.

On the off chance you're actually being serious, let's take those points slowly.

McGrath & Pollock were mentioned in the original report? Nope. McGrath & Pollock tested in a lab? Nope. Does the technology exist to accurately measure degrees of flexion in a match situation? Nope.

So where's your evidence anyone with a quote-unquote "clean" action throws? That's rhetorical, by the way: there's none. That being so why waste time, money and effort "proving" what is already apparent?

But thanks for playing.

And the ICC panel reports just came out of their arses. What a joke!

 

[BoyBrumby]

And the ICC panel reports just came out of their arses. What a joke!

Yeah, it's hilarious. No actual responses to any of the points I raise tho. One wonders why?

 

[sledger]

Bad thread is bad. Wonder why it hasn't been locked tbh.

 

[uvelocity]

Bad thread is bad. Wonder why it hasn't been locked tbh.

Was pretty reasonable I think. Some facts posted at one stage. Deserves a few more cat and dog pictures now tbh.

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or a daemon photoshop

 

[Daemon]

Coming right up

 

[zaremba]

Now bringing expenses to it. LMAO.

Do you really think that the expense isn't a serious consideration when you're proposing annual screening for every international player in the world?

Do you really not see it as a tiny bit wasteful to have an intensive global testing regime to see whether people who don't seem to chuck might in fact chuck?

Time and money well spent?

Anyhow to answer my own question, which you've chosen to ignore, perhaps the ICC could squeeze in some more mind numbing ODIs to raise the cash.

 

[sledger]

It's ok, we live in candyland, where money is no object. And if all else fails, we can magically invent a new method of testing which doesn't cost anything!

 

[Son Of Coco]

Bad thread is bad. Wonder why it hasn't been locked tbh.

I dunno, I was pretty proud of the part where uvelocity and I worked together to solve the mystery of how they measure revolutions from video footage.

We should be paid more though...

 

[sledger]

I dunno, I was pretty proud of the part where uvelocity and I worked together to solve the mystery of how they measure revolutions from video footage.

We should be paid more though...

Yeah, that was fine. But as Brumby and Zaremba have alluded to, certain posters aren't interested in responding to valid questions, and instead are determined to force their own agenda on everyone else and aren't willing to listen to logic/reason.

 

[Migara]

Yeah, that was fine. But as Brumby and Zaremba have alluded to, certain posters aren't interested in responding to valid questions, and instead are determined to force their own agenda on everyone else and aren't willing to listen to logic/reason.

 

[Son Of Coco]

Now bringing expenses to it. LMAO.

What...you mean like this?

Simple, because it is not a real time process and must be costing huge amounts of money

 

[sledger]

Go away troll, answer the questions put to you or piss off.

 

[zaremba]

What...you mean like this?

Genuinely

 

[Migara]

Yeah, it's hilarious. No actual responses to any of the points I raise tho. One wonders why?

Sorry mate, you have not made a point. ICC panel has measured extension of elbows of bowlers using video footage - fact. Only bowler who did not extend the elbow was Sarwan - fact. McGarth and Pollock extended it up to 12 degrees - fact.

Please look up in cricinfo, the article is their. I am not bothered to find it.

 

[Migara]

What...you mean like this?

Ha ha! we are discussing the basics of whether eye is a good screening method for dodgy actions. And you conviniently quote out of context what I responded to why it's not being done regularly. FFS we have 3rd umpire, Hawkeye, Hotspot, Speedgun and Superslowmo, all of which were new technology and costs monumental amounts. Why not the elbow extension?

 

[Migara]

Go away troll, answer the questions put to you or piss off.

I'll answer the people who made them. Not turds trying to bait everyone for fights.

 

[uvelocity]

I'll answer the people who made them. Not turds trying to bait everyone for fights.

Yeah but you don't. You're a waste of time.