Sledging

[djh]

some good thoughts on here. Although I can't agree that all sledging is stupid, there is definately a line to be drawn, definately racism, and the train crash thing mentioned earlier (I don't know th details) is pretty disgusting.
Sometimes the replies are funnier than the original sledging is, eg botham to rod marsh and the eddo brandes biscuit reply. Most of it is harmless fun ddesigned to unsettle the batsmans concentration, which is fine.
What makes me laugh is people like graham smith complaining that 'all warne does is call you a c*** all day' - so what, let him do it, complaining about it in the media is embarrassing. When you've complained about it, it will happen again cos they know it works - if you're mentally strong enough, you should ignore it and they will stop doing it to you.
One more thing - no aussie, EVER, should complain about getting it either - so andrew symonds - shut up and just bat.
Everybody should get in the aussies faces like the england boys did at the beginning of the 05 ashes series, they don't like it up 'em.

 

[silentstriker]

As a bowler, I'd certainly not mind throwing a few beamers here and there to anyone that sledged me.

I don't have a problem with sledging though. And I can't stop laughing at the Aussies complaining about sledging.

 

[Matt79]

I don't think we ever really do, unless it was racist.

 

[silentstriker]

I don't think we ever really do, unless it was racist.

Thought Symonds did - though I hope not as it would be quite hypocritical.

 

[Matt79]

Exactly. I've seen him acknowledge/agree that there's been a hell of a lot of chat during this series, while not really complain about it.

 

[djh]

There's been a bit of heat with harbajan singh and that daft little p*ick sreesanth. Although harbajan can walk the walk being a world class bowler, someone really ought to give sreesanth a slap. He's got a face only his mother could love.

 

[Richard]

Which I beleive Chris Cairns said never happened anyway

Yeah, I was going to say, every player on the ground the day that supposedly happened has come out and said it didn't occur...

Not that it happened, mind you.

Let's hope not.

 

[Richard]

I have to disagree. Unsettling your opponents and gaining an advantage? Why not? If the players are not mentally tough enough to handle everything that occurs in the game of cricket, including sledging which I assume is part of the game, than their weakness should be exploited by the other side.

Example being the recent rugby match quarter finals which involved Australia and England and where England I believe won that game because their forward packed outclassed the Australia forward pack in the scrum while they were pretty even on other aspects of the game.

Same circumstances here, if a team is weak in one aspect of the game, teams will always utilize that situation to their advantage and full credit to them.

If sledging is part of the game and remains so, than teams need to educate themselves better on how to handle it, rather than complaining or trying to ban it.

Another one into the sarchasm.

 

[Richard]

c***

p*ick

Just a word to the wise - there is a filter on these forums, and it's there for good reason. People avoiding it isn't looked kindly upon.

Prick isn't filtered though.

 

[amokk1]

Another one into the sarchasm.

Of course not

Btw, considering that Symonds received more racial taunts from apparently 20 members in yesterdays game and complaints also received against the spectators in the SA vs PAK series.

How would ICC go about clearing up this issue with Australia vs India coming up in this summer in Australia. I've actually been to matches involving Australia and India at the MCG, and I can tell you that the whole experience can get very racial.

 

[Perm]

Could be a little less rude really. Anyway, to me sport is all about having fun, and sledging etc takes away the fun of it for me, even if it might help me or my team to a win.

Well, I've got a different outlook on sport as a whole, so that would explain why we differ on this point

 

[Perm]

As a bowler, I'd certainly not mind throwing a few beamers here and there to anyone that sledged me.

Nah, that's definitely unacceptable. Let your actual performance speak for you if you're being sledged, no need to be stupid about it. Remember you'll always get the chance to have a crack at them.

 

[amokk1]

Moving a little off topic, just read on the news website about Roy and the racial abuse he received.

"With a timid Australia insisting that the Board of Control for Cricket in India must pursue the matter, the BCCI refusing to act without a complaint from Australia, and officials in Vadodara denying the racial abuse ever happened, there remains a very real danger that nothing will be done."

Sorry to say, that is a very poor outcome.I wonder why the Australian's are not complaining or anything done about the issue? Considering that issues regarding racism have always been acted upon in a swift manner.

Just a thought thought, from a marketing perspective and India touring down under, maybe it is all a setup to garner more interest in the series coming up? just a though, mind you.

 

[silentstriker]

Nah, that's definitely unacceptable. Let your actual performance speak for you if you're being sledged, no need to be stupid about it. Remember you'll always get the chance to have a crack at them.

Haha, like I give a crap. I'm probably not good enough to get them out via bowling anyway. So if you say something that I feel crosses the line, my reply will be a ball at your head. I'm not advocating others do it, I'm just saying that's what I would do.

Just random banter/gamesmanship is fine though.

 

[Son Of Coco]

Disagree. I don't feel it's in the slightest appropriate to make train noises at someone whose sister died in a train crash either. Not in the slightest.

Or anything similar to that.

Or either.

I thought Cairns said that never happened!? Is there new info out?

 

[Son Of Coco]

Nah, that's definitely unacceptable. Let your actual performance speak for you if you're being sledged, no need to be stupid about it. Remember you'll always get the chance to have a crack at them.

Yeah, I always thought players who sledge no's 10 and 11 when if they get out they'll be straight on to bowl at you with a good dose of the ****s were incredibly stupid. I always bowled very well after being sledged at bat.

I have been sledged on the way into bowl though, which I found unusual...the guy was a few sandwiches short though and ended up getting banned.

 

[Son Of Coco]

Moving a little off topic, just read on the news website about Roy and the racial abuse he received.

"With a timid Australia insisting that the Board of Control for Cricket in India must pursue the matter, the BCCI refusing to act without a complaint from Australia, and officials in Vadodara denying the racial abuse ever happened, there remains a very real danger that nothing will be done."

Sorry to say, that is a very poor outcome.I wonder why the Australian's are not complaining or anything done about the issue? Considering that issues regarding racism have always been acted upon in a swift manner.

Just a thought thought, from a marketing perspective and India touring down under, maybe it is all a setup to garner more interest in the series coming up? just a though, mind you.

I think Australia have lodged a formal complaint.

 

[Matt79]

Let's hope not.

Well, we don't have to hope, because we know Cairns and the others supposedly involved have said its a complete fabrication (which was probably as hurtful to Cairns when it was put to him by journos later as it would have been if it had actually been said on field).

 

[Matt79]

Of course not

Btw, considering that Symonds received more racial taunts from apparently 20 members in yesterdays game and complaints also received against the spectators in the SA vs PAK series.

How would ICC go about clearing up this issue with Australia vs India coming up in this summer in Australia. I've actually been to matches involving Australia and India at the MCG, and I can tell you that the whole experience can get very racial.

A bit of an exaggeration in my experience, although obviously there have been incidents in the past, and I can only comment on anything that's gone on near where I was sitting.

 

[amokk1]

A bit of an exaggeration in my experience, although obviously there have been incidents in the past, and I can only comment on anything that's gone on near where I was sitting.

Nope I stand by my claims. Where abouts I was sitting I was approached by random Aussie supporters just passing racial remarks as they walked past me. If you have not noticed or I am not sure how it is these days, but when Sri Lanka/India/Pakistan haved played @ the MCG between 2000 and 2004 (when I used to go watch the games), there are always a group their supporters who always love to cause trouble and would love to fight and the Aussies were not willing to back down as well which always caused headaches for the security guards.