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Semi-Final #2- New Zealand v South Africa- Wednesday, March 5th- Lahore

Silly Point 2.0

School Boy/Girl Captain
I'd love to know what the ECB's money is going on then, because it certainly isn't going towards improving the England cricket team
 

SteveNZ

International Coach
I'm genuinely nervous about this game, a trophy in 50-over cricket I reckon would mean something - as it would to beat India in a final on the sub-continent.
 

Moss

International Captain
Conway and Young to both play at the expense of Mitchell who's had the worst last 12 months of all of them but is seemingly undroppable which is wearing thin on me. It's not like he adds anything with the ball.
I agree with this. Rachin at 4 could be very useful with his ability to get the spinners away as the Bangladesh game showed. Mitchell looked out of sorts in the India game and I can see Varun and the others making things extremely difficult for him should NZ reach the final.
 

Zinzan

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Mitchell is a big game player.
Was superb in the 2023 ODI WC and won us the. 2021 World T20 semi.
Form has to count for something doesn't it? Yes he was good in those tournaments 2 & 4 years ago respectively but It's not like Conway isn't a big match player himself with the difference being he & Young have been averaging well over 40 in the last 12 months vs. Mitchell's average of 30 & to add to that how utterly out of sorts he looked against India on admittedly a spin friendly surface the other night.
 

Kenneth Viljoen

International Regular
If I were to remove my South African cap off , I would have to admit NZ are better suited to defeating India in Dubai conditions..

Bar Maharaj , Shamsi just doesn't inspire confidence and Markram is a part timer who has a niggle ..We really should have included Linde in the original squad of 15.

People say having 2 left arm off spinners is a bit one dimensional, well Axar Patel and Jadeja seem to be doing alright in the same team.
 

Moss

International Captain
If I were to remove my South African cap off , I would have to admit NZ are better suited to defeating India in Dubai conditions..

Bar Maharaj , Shamsi just doesn't inspire confidence and Markram is a part timer who has a niggle ..We really should have included Linde in the original squad of 15.

People say having 2 left arm off spinners is a bit one dimensional, well Axar Patel and Jadeja seem to be doing alright in the same team.
I was thinking about this, it’ll probably depend on what sort of wicket is trotted out. If it’s similar to the one in yesterday’s game the gap from India is probably narrowed a bit.

Otherwise the difference in quality of spinners (see how India dealt with Bracewell) means even if NZ are slightly better (not sure) it’ll take quite a heist for them or SA to beat India. Similar to Linde, someone like Ajaz would be great to have but NZ would never pick him for whiteball.
 

Sunil1z

International Regular
I was thinking about this, it’ll probably depend on what sort of wicket is trotted out. If it’s similar to the one in yesterday’s game the gap from India is probably narrowed a bit.

Otherwise the difference in quality of spinners (see how India dealt with Bracewell) means even if NZ are slightly better (not sure) it’ll take quite a heist for them or SA to beat India. Similar to Linde, someone like Ajaz would be great to have but NZ would never pick him for whiteball.
How much time it takes to prepare a fresh wicket? There are 3 pitches in Dubai . Can they prepare another fresh wicket for Finals ?
 

Zinzan

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I was thinking about this, it’ll probably depend on what sort of wicket is trotted out. If it’s similar to the one in yesterday’s game the gap from India is probably narrowed a bit.
Presumably the BCCI get to influence the curator on what sort of pitch they want from a neutral host country.
 
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Moss

International Captain
How much time it takes to prepare a fresh wicket? There are 3 pitches in Dubai . Can they prepare another fresh wicket for Finals ?
I think they can, and they may decide to take fewer chances seeing how much the pitch for the 2023 WC final was discussed after the game.

Honestly from a pure cricketing perspective I don’t mind if they put out a used pitch which plays more like the Ind-NZ game. It’s always more fun in an ODI when the batsmen have to earn their runs. Broadcasters probably won’t agree.
 

LangleyburyCCPlayer

State Vice-Captain
Is it going on the Hundred? I bet they pumped lots of money into that through marketing and PR people
The Hundred looks to have achieved its primary goal of earning fat stacks for English cricket, but in doing that it has helped to ruin our 50 over team, and now we’re at the mercy of Indian businessmen who have no reason to give one single **** about English cricket. India are so big that it’s not worth comparing them to anyone else, but Australia are managing to create good all-format teams without pulling stunts like that, and even South Africa with their own problems a fraction of the resources are getting better results than we are, even you guys, despite your golden generation fading away, are still doing far better with your limited resources than we are
 

King Kane

International Vice-Captain
I like Santner's decision to bat first, SA are more likely to choke batting second but that depends on us getting a big enough total to pressure them.
 

Sunil1z

International Regular
I like Santner's decision to bat first, SA are more likely to choke batting second but that depends on us getting a big enough total to pressure them.
if they have to choke even 250 is enough. Won’t call it a choke if NZ score 330 and SA score 300 in reply.
 

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