Rugby Union All-Time Draft

[99*]

I'll swap you Fitz with Kearns and one of your other gun players if you want.

Haha, we'll talk when I have a few more players.

 

[Somerset]

Just to make it a bit easier I'll update the selections so far.

Round One

Michaelf7777777 - Grant Fox (#10)
Somerset - Daniel Carter (#10)
99* - Colin Meads (#5)
Perm - Richie McCaw (#7)
Voltman - Michael Jones (#7)
Simon - John Eales (#5)
Indipper - Frik du Preez (#5)
Jamee999 - Jonah Lomu (#11)
Francis - Zinzan Brooke (#8)
BoyBrumby - Barry John (#10)
Chaminda_00 - Sean Fitzpatrick (#2)
ripper868 - Nick Farr-Jones (#9)
ohtani's jacket - Graham Price (#3)

Round Two

ohtani's jacket - Robert Paparemborde (#1)
ripper868 - Keith Wood (#2)
Chaminda_00 - Os du Randt (#1)
BoyBrumby - Martin Johnson (#4)
Francis - Willie John McBride (#5)
Jamee999 - Bill Beaumont (#5)
Indipper - Ian McLauchlan (#1)
Simon - Joost van der Westhuizen (#9)
Voltman - Danie Gerber (#13)
Perm - Justin Marshall (#9)
99* - Wayne (Buck) Shelford (#8)
Somerset - George Nepia (#15)
Michaelf7777777 - David Campese (#11)

Round Three

Michaelf7777777 - Gareth Edwards (#9)
Somerset - Sir Brian Lochore (#8)
99* - Hugo Porta (#10)
Perm - JPR Williams (#15)
Voltman - Mike Gibson (#12)
Simon - Michael Lynagh (#10)
Indipper - Peter Wheeler (#2)
Jamee999 - George Smith (#7)
Francis - Gordon Brown (#4)
BoyBrumby - Tim Horan (#12)
Chaminda_00 - George Gregan (#9)
ripper868 - Phillippe Sella (#13)
ohtani's jacket - Hennie Muller (#8)

Round Four

ohtani's jacket - Mark Ella (#10)
ripper868 - Naas Botha (#10)
Chaminda_00 - Phil Bennett (#10)
BoyBrumby - Wilson Whineray (#1)
Francis - Cliff Morgan (#10)
Jamee999 - Jason Leonard (#1)
Indipper - Mervyn Davies (#8)
Simon - Matthew Burke (#15)
Voltman - Aaron "Okey" Geffin (#3)
Perm - Jeff Wilson (#14)
99* - Andy Irvine (#15)
Somerset - John Kirwan (#14)
Michaelf7777777 - Trevor Allan (#13)

Round Five
Michaelf7777777 - Kevin Skinner (#3)
Somerset - Jean-Pierre Rives (#6)
99* - Phil Kearns (#2)
Perm - Carl Hayman (#3)
Voltman - John Rutherford (#10)
Simon - Morne du Plessis (#8)
Indipper - Serge Blanco (#15)
Jamee999 - Lawrence Dallaglio (#8)
Francis - Ken Catchpole (#9)
BoyBrumby - Josh Kronfeld (#7)
Chaminda_00 - Francois Pienaar (#6)
ripper868 -
ohtani's jacket -

 

[Perm]

Carl Hayman

 

[Somerset]

Michaelf7777777
Kevin Skinner (#3)
Gareth Edwards (#9)
Grant Fox (#10)
David Campese (#11)
Trevor Allan (#13)

Somerset
Jean-Pierre Rives (#6)
Sir Brian Lochore (#8)
Daniel Carter (#10)
John Kirwan (#14)
George Nepia (#15)

99*
Phil Kearns (#2)
Colin Meads (#5)
Wayne (Buck) Shelford (#8)
Hugo Porta (#10)
Andy Irvine (#15)

Perm
Carl Hayman (#3)
Richie McCaw (#7)
Justin Marshall (#9)
Jeff Wilson (#14)
JPR Williams (#15)

Voltman
Aaron "Okey" Geffin (#3)
Michael Jones (#7)
John Rutherford (#10)
Mike Gibson (#12)
Danie Gerber (#13)

Simon
John Eales (#5)
Morne du Plessis (#8)
Joost van der Westhuizen (#9)
Michael Lynagh (#10)
Matthew Burke (#15)

Indipper
Ian McLauchlan (#1)
Peter Wheeler (#2)
Frik du Preez (#5)
Mervyn Davies (#8)
Serge Blanco (#15)

Jamee999
Jason Leonard (#1)
Bill Beaumont (#5)
George Smith (#7)
Lawrence Dallaglio (#8)
Jonah Lomu (#11)

Francis
Gordon Brown (#4)
Willie John McBride (#5)
Zinzan Brooke (#8)
Ken Catchpole (#9)
Cliff Morgan (#10)

BoyBrumby
Wilson Whineray (#1)
Martin Johnson (#4)
Josh Kronfeld (#7)
Barry John (#10)
Tim Horan (#12)

Chaminda_00
Os du Randt (#1)
Sean Fitzpatrick (#2)
Francois Pienaar (#6)
George Gregan (#9)
Phil Bennett (#10)

ripper868
Keith Wood (#2)
Nick Farr-Jones (#9)
Naas Botha (#10)
Phillippe Sella (#13)

ohtani's jacket
Robert Paparemborde (#1)
Graham Price (#3)
Hennie Muller (#8)
Mark Ella (#10)

 

[Smudge]

John Rutherford (#10)

John Rutherford - Scotsman.com Sport

 

[Simon]

Morne du Plessis (#8)

 

[Indipper]

Time for a back now I think. Serge Blanco

 

[Jamee999]

Lawrence Bruno Nero Dallaglio

 

[ripper868]

Time for a back now I think. Serge Blanco

and there's my full back (and next pick subsequently)

 

[Francis]

Yeah Blanco was my next pick as well. If I was picking an all-time XV, Blanco would be my fullback. Hence I knew it would be too good to be true that he'd be there to pick in the fifth round.

I'll select Ken Catchpole, generally regarded by Australians as their greatest ever halfback. A certain New Zealand halfback who is a Rhodes schollar and is arguably New Zealand's best ever halfback, played against him in 1964 and rated him the greatest ever halfback ever. This same New Zealand halfback has played against Gareth Edwards and rates Catchpole as better. He also compared him to the guy Gareth Edwards rates the best he ever played against, and said Catchpole was better.

There's actually quite a list of people who say Catchpole is the best halfback ever.

Catchpole:
* Played a starring role in New South Wales' win over the Lions in 1959 (the only defeat that Lions side had on Australian soil - also an underrated great Lions side)
* Played a starring role in the Aussies becomming the first side to win two consecutive games on South African soil.
* Played a starring role in the 'Wellington Wonderland' - a game in 1964 where the Aussie gave the All Blacks one of their biggest floggings of the 60s (they lost the series). That was New Zealand's worst loss since their 17-0 flogging in 1928 at the hands of the Springboks. Australia won 20-5. Don't know how much a try was worth by 1964 though. So despite not winning the series, they did tramble over one of the great All Black sides.
* Beat South Africa 2-0 in 1965
* Rallied the Aussies to beat Wales when their odds were 9-2.
* Was called "the greatest halfback ever" by the president of English rugby.

It goes on... some even say he's Australia's best ever player.

This is a real steal for me. I probably could have waited a couple of rounds before picking him, but I had a feeling he'd be a suprise pick by someone. I've selected someone who might be the best halfback ever in round five, while there were people picking Gregan and Farr-Jones ahead of him.

 

[chaminda_00]

lol Banco was going to be my pick at full as well. Though there a few other full backs that I would be happy with.

 

[BoyBrumby]

Need someone to win me some ball. Josh Kronfeld fits the bill. Overshadowed slightly by his illustrious predecessor & successor in the black no.7 shirt, but still a magnificent openside.

 

[chaminda_00]

Francois Pienaar (SA) #6

Got no idea if my side look good, bad or crap. Half the guys I picked have been from reading about them. Have watched this guys play, was a good leader of men. Not as good tactically as Gregan, but we will see.

 

[Francis]

In hindsight, I'm shocked Blanco was left to round five. Very suprised at that.

 

[chaminda_00]

Has a bit to do with a fairly high number of decent fullback. Same as Kirwan and wingers I guess.

 

[Smudge]

Don't know how much a try was worth by 1964 though. So despite not winning the series, they did tramble over one of the great All Black sides.

3 points.

 

[ripper868]

Francois Pienaar (SA) #6

Got no idea if my side look good, bad or crap. Half the guys I picked have been from reading about them. Have watched this guys play, was a good leader of men. Not as good tactically as Gregan, but we will see.

Bastard

I'll Take a scotsman who captained the Lions twice at fullback

Gavin Hastings (#15)

 

[ohtani's jacket]

Jan Lotz (South Africa #2)
Kel Tremain (New Zealand #6)

 

[ripper868]

I'll have Peter Winterbottom at #7

 

[ohtani's jacket]

How do we decide who has the best side?

Seems like a stalemate to me.

EDIT: Oh, and Somerset -- Jean-Pierre Rives was an openside flanker, just letting you know in case you choose two 7s.