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Round 16 and Beyond
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FaaipDeOiad
Hall of Fame Member
Yes, because "what else do you expect from a northern peasant" is rational and reasoned.TT Boy said:
FaaipDeOiad
Hall of Fame Member
I'll break it down then. If you commit a foul, particularly a serious one that might have been worthy of a yellow card, and then you show clear dissent after the decision, and even resort to acting out your frustration with another foul on a nearby player, you run the risk of being red carded. There was nothing the least bit surpising about the call, as soon as he stood up after the foul and started acting like an idiot I figured he'd be gone.Goughy said:
If, as one might imagine, he also verbally abused nearby players and/or the referee, it'd be an absolute no-brainer to send him off.
Tom Halsey
International Coach
Maybe it's not, but his general point is correct.FaaipDeOiad said:
I don't really think it was a sending-off, but England still had chances, should have taken them, and really have themselves to blame. I also don't overly blame Christiano Ronaldo. The majority of players these days attempt to get people sent off, there are probably more than a couple of our side who would've tried.
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FaaipDeOiad
Hall of Fame Member
Yeah. What Ronaldo did was pretty low, but it was no worse than what plenty of other players would do.
I thought England were pretty unlucky, but they didn't manage to score a goal in 120 minutes and seemed happy to go to penalties at the end, so you have to expect that a loss in the shootout is a possibility. It's unfortunate that Rooney got himself sent off, because with the performance of Crouch I think it's likely England would have scored with him on the pitch.
I thought England were pretty unlucky, but they didn't manage to score a goal in 120 minutes and seemed happy to go to penalties at the end, so you have to expect that a loss in the shootout is a possibility. It's unfortunate that Rooney got himself sent off, because with the performance of Crouch I think it's likely England would have scored with him on the pitch.
Tom Halsey
International Coach
Also, I think a lot of people saw how good a defender Gary Neville is today. England were an infinitely better side for his presence, and IMO he's been a world-class defender for years, but rather like Hoggard in the England team never used to get the praise he deserved.
FaaipDeOiad
Hall of Fame Member
Actually, he's clearly not a peasant, but regardless it is not at all rational to blame someone's unacceptable behaviour on the region in which they were born.TT Boy said:
Anyway, I'm off to watch hopefully the first entertaining quarter-final now. Brazil 2-0 for mine.
Goughy
Hall of Fame Member
Well Ill be honest and admit I didnt really see the verbals. But he was fouled first was off balance leading to him accidently stepping on the player and then giving a gentle push.FaaipDeOiad said:
The push and the stepping were not worthy of any cards. Far worse happens all the time.
The verbals, I cannot condone, though harsh for a straight red. I still do not believe it happened and believe me I have no bias. Did i want England to win?, of course ,but I would have been equally shocked if it had been the other way around.
I think allround it was a shocker, I guess we will differ in opinion.
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Tom Halsey
International Coach
We can't have the Frogs win. If they do, all the sides that I didn't want to win in the QFs... did.
Scaly piscine
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
It has been repeatedly shown from friendlies and other games that England are rubbish when they play 4-5-1, so while you could blame the players for being rubbish in that formation you have to blame the vegetable for playing that formation. You can also blame the players for having a habit of wanting to hit the long ball, but to me a manager should be playing whatever system best suits the team and I felt all along England were trying to play an unnatural game.wpdavid said:
TT Boy
Hall of Fame Member
FaaipDeOiad said:
Do you live in the 18th century? (Does gay mean happy?) I'm not going by bank balance. The word peasant has far more connotations and meanings than just social status. Uneducated people which Rooney is (no matter what his current social status is) can be classified as peasants if their actions and taste are of a simple and antediluvian like way. Sleeping with 60 year old whores, stamping on people’s ********, are classic characteristics of the 21st century peasantry.
Apologies for the northern comment though, I have family which live and originate from Liverpool, so no disrespect I actually like scousers.
GIMH
Norwood's on Fire
He's Northern, but he's clearly not a peasant. For what it's worth, i'd take a team of Northern England over Southern England anyday.
Anyhow I don't think it was a red, if the stamp was deliberate then yes, it's a red offence, but I don't think it was, and the referee can't have seen that too well. So if you're saying his push was worthy of a red - see Figo's headbutt last Sunday.
Anyhow I don't think it was a red, if the stamp was deliberate then yes, it's a red offence, but I don't think it was, and the referee can't have seen that too well. So if you're saying his push was worthy of a red - see Figo's headbutt last Sunday.
