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Road to India in Australia 2024-25

Thala_0710

First Class Debutant
Is it really a massive blow?
Shami is 34 and hasn't played a Test in 16 months. His record in Australia is only 31 wkts @ 32.16 as well so would the Aussie bats really care too much?
It is. Shami is a massive upgrade on both Siraj and Akashdeep. The last time he played a series in Aus he took 16 wkts @ 26.19 there. Facing Bumrah and Shami would be a much more scary proposition for the Aussie batters instead of Bumrah/Siraj or Bumrah/Akashdeep.
 

Qlder

International Debutant
It is. Shami is a massive upgrade on both Siraj and Akashdeep. The last time he played a series in Aus he took 16 wkts @ 26.19 there. Facing Bumrah and Shami would be a much more scary proposition for the Aussie batters instead of Bumrah/Siraj or Bumrah/Akashdeep.
Ok, but Shami hasn't played a Test or FC match in 16 months so how does anyone know how good he'll still be coming back at 34 after such a long lay-off (and now it'll be longer as injured again)
 
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CodeOfWisden

U19 Cricketer
Oh no, Mukesh Kumar for Australia tour? Didn't we learn our lessons when Vinay Kumar played at Perth?

Besides, it's been a really long time since Shami has played tests. Not sure he will be the same bowler even after he becomes fit.
Although I don’t like Mukesh at all but there’s a big difference between him and Vinay Kunar.
Mukesh Kumar usually bowls above 135 and is way taller than Vinay, I would take him over Dayal who has no test experience yet.

If Shami is injured, these should be our picks -

Bumrah
Akashdeep
Siraj
Harshit Rana
Mukesh
 

Thala_0710

First Class Debutant
Ok, but Shami hasn't played a Test or FC match in 16 months so how does anyone know how good he'll still be coming back at 34 after such a long lay-off (and now it'll be longer as injured again)
Yeah we don't know that, but I'll still back him over our other options
 

CodeOfWisden

U19 Cricketer
Is it really a massive blow?
Shami is 34 and hasn't played a Test in 16 months. His record in Australia is only 31 wkts @ 32.16 as well so would the Aussie bats really care too much?
His record is average bcoz of that series in 2014 on flatrons, othewise he had been good.
 

Arachnodouche

International Captain
No batsman relishes facing an on-song Shami. Instantly brings all.modes of dismissals into play against both RHBs and LHBs. Huge blow. Just have to hope Bumrah, Siraj, and Akash Deep can stay fit through the five games because Mukesh and Dayal will get carted at their floaty speeds.
 

honestbharani

Whatever it takes!!!
Shami did not bowl that well even in the one innings he bowled last time, did he? He was really good in the 2018-19 series but that's all we are going by, right?

I think he is definitely a big miss but hopefully Akashdeep can stand up and do well.
 

Arachnodouche

International Captain
Well it's just the one innings. He has 31 wickets in Australia in 7 games prior to that, so he hasn't exactly been useless there. But just on potential and experience alone, not having him there opening the bowling alongside Bumrah puts a big dent in our chances. I like Akash Deep though and think he's the real deal; it's Siraj who can't afford to blow hot and cold like he usually does. The real problem with Shami's absence though is that it brings us one step closer to being forced to try out an untested/unpromising bench. Don't have much hope there, as lucky as no-name seamers have been for us in recent times.
 

GirthQuake

School Boy/Girl Captain
Shami's absence means India are presented with a conundrum. They have to win against NZ with WTC in mind but also ensure Bumrah is not run aground before BGT. Maybe consider debuting both H Rana and Dayal against NZ.
 

Thala_0710

First Class Debutant
Shami's absence means India are presented with a conundrum. They have to win against NZ with WTC in mind but also ensure Bumrah is not run aground before BGT. Maybe consider debuting both H Rana and Dayal against NZ.
Prepare turners and let Ashwin Jadeja do the rest!
 

Qlder

International Debutant
Again I can't understand the oh no, we've lost Shami as he's been lost a long time hasn't he?

He has not played a Test in 16 months and since Jan 2022 he has 9 Tests for 26 wkts @ 33.19. His best match figures for these last 3 years has been 4/70
 

OverratedSanity

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Again I can't understand the oh no, we've lost Shami as he's been lost a long time hasn't he?

He has not played a Test in 16 months and since Jan 2022 he has 9 Tests for 26 wkts @ 33.19. His best match figures for these last 3 years has been 4/70
Because he's been a proven quality bowler over a sample size of 10 years and had an unreal WC where he bowled as well as he ever has.
 

Thala_0710

First Class Debutant
Again I can't understand the oh no, we've lost Shami as he's been lost a long time hasn't he?

He has not played a Test in 16 months and since Jan 2022 he has 9 Tests for 26 wkts @ 33.19. His best match figures for these last 3 years has been 4/70
Shami is a major miss for India only in SENA conditions, as in the SC we have our great spinners to cover for him and the other teams haven't been as strong recently. He needs a regular run in the test squad without injuries and he could deliver once again imo, as evidenced the ODI wc where he was in perfect rhythm. The major issue with losing Shami is our bench strength, which again isn't really tested unless it's a SENA series of which he has only missed the SA one (which had the most bowling friendly pitches in recent memory). Hence, it wasn't a major issue uptil now, but the upcoming 5 match BGT will highlight this issue much much more.
 

Qlder

International Debutant
The major issue with losing Shami is our bench strength, which again isn't really tested unless it's a SENA series of which he has only missed the SA one (which had the most bowling friendly pitches in recent memory). Hence, it wasn't a major issue uptil now, but the upcoming 5 match BGT will highlight this issue much much more.
Ummm, last BGT in Aus Shami broke down in first innings he bowled. Bench strength seemed to be good enough to do alright without him 😉
 

Sunil1z

International Regular
Ummm, last BGT Shami broke down in first innings he bowled. Bench strength seemed to be good enough to do alright without him 😉
The major reason we rate highly is because him , Bumrah and Ishant Sharma are the only 3 fast bowlers who have won us matches . So, now we will have to rely on bench strength rather than proven match winner .
 

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