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Road to India in Australia 2024-25

Thala_0710

First Class Debutant
They have cited a groin injury as the reason why he hasn't been called up for the BGT but I'm not sure about the validity of the same. Is there an actually an injury or is it just an easy excuse to drop kuldeep?
 

Spark

Global Moderator
Haha no Kuldeep is just bizarre. He has a fantastic record against Australia and he should do well in these conditions too.

Even if he's injured, not picking him in the squad is just ridiculous unless he's done his Achilles or something.
 

honestbharani

Whatever it takes!!!
Haha no Kuldeep is just bizarre. He has a fantastic record against Australia and he should do well in these conditions too.

Even if he's injured, not picking him in the squad is just ridiculous unless he's done his Achilles or something.
They have said its a chroic left groin injury. Both him and Riyan Parag are said to be trying to find some permanent solutions to their chronic issues. Shami is pretty much out as well, I guess. Unless they keep their options open of replacing players after the 2nd or 3rd test or so.
 

Spark

Global Moderator
They have said its a chroic left groin injury. Both him and Riyan Parag are said to be trying to find some permanent solutions to their chronic issues. Shami is pretty much out as well, I guess. Unless they keep their options open of replacing players after the 2nd or 3rd test or so.
If it's just a squad for the first game or two that certainly makes more sense
 

honestbharani

Whatever it takes!!!
I mean they have not said its specificaly for first few tests but I am assuming they have the chance to make a change for the last 2/3 which is probably where Kuldeep or Shami may get fit.
 

Arachnodouche

International Captain
They have cited a groin injury as the reason why he hasn't been called up for the BGT but I'm not sure about the validity of the same. Is there an actually an injury or is it just an easy excuse to drop kuldeep?
Who cares, may as well save fans the aggravation of seeing him on drinks duty through the tour. But seriously, my gripe is, if this is a chronic injury and not a sudden breakdown, when was it first diagnosed and why wasn't it addressed well in advance of a hype tour?
 

Qlder

International Regular
I want to say a big thank you to New Zealand for making India now look very vulnerable to a 3-1 loss to Australia (Sydney wash out) 😀
 
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honestbharani

Whatever it takes!!!
Who cares, may as well save fans the aggravation of seeing him on drinks duty through the tour. But seriously, my gripe is, if this is a chronic injury and not a sudden breakdown, when was it first diagnosed and why wasn't it addressed well in advance of a hype tour?
Its not that hard to believe though. Parag played for us recently and he is now out with some chronic issue too. Mayank played and is now out. Maybe he played and aggravated something in Bengaluru.

I am just tired of conspiracy theories just because people dont like the personalities involved. I thought it was toxic and gutless and cowardly when it was about Virat, I think the same now. I bet the exact same thing happening under Dravid would have had everyone just say how unlucky Kuldeep was and move on.
 

Spark

Global Moderator
Sporting teams can and do lie about injuries though, happens all the time. I don't think it's as severe in cricket as it is in some other sports though where "hamstring awareness" is now universally treated as just as often as not being code for "tested positive to cocaine" (and this isn't conspiracy theory, this has been outright admitted!)
 

honestbharani

Whatever it takes!!!
Sporting teams can and do lie about injuries though, happens all the time. I don't think it's as severe in cricket as it is in some other sports though where "hamstring awareness" is now universally treated as just as often as not being code for "tested positive to cocaine" (and this isn't conspiracy theory, this has been outright admitted!)
Oh I am fine with and understand that part. But I almost bet it wont be contested like this had Dravid been the coach. That's the toxicity I am talking about. You have seen how folks like sunilz would have been all over Virat's captaincy had this defeat happened under him, but Rohit and Dravid are generally considered more "likeable" so get a pass for the **** they do when its usually far worse than what Virat or Shastri/Gambhir do/did.
 

Qlder

International Regular
Let's assume India prepare a road for 3rd Test vs NZ and it's a draw.

Then a drawn BGT series (2W-2L-1D) will give India 57.02% in WTC. That 2-2-1 for Australia plus a drawn series vs Sri Lanka (1-1) will also give Australia 57.02%

So basically winner of BGT should be in WTC final (over 60%), while loser could drop below NZ, SL or SA and be out (drawn BGT and both could be out unless Aus beat SL 2-0)
 
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