You can think Lyon is better all you want. Why does the second part change anything? Ashwin has already completely outperformed Lyon in Australia once. A second time shouldn't change things for anyone . You're a moron .
I assume Clarrie "the Kiwi" Grimmett is no 1.
Cause that was a contribution in India’s most important win ever. A far more important series for Lyon and Ashwin, since India won that series in Australia. 2014 was not, since Australia managed to retain it: a predictable result, and a series no one will remember. But in the one, where Lyon should’ve been at his best to avoid a visitors win, he was not. In retrospect it becomes a far more important series for both sides, since it was a historical result, and in an away series a visiting spinner managed to colossally outperformed the home spinner: pretty simple
Its Ashwin the "CS Kiwi" who is #1 tbf.
Course there is. Lyon is a better bowler in non-spinning conditions.
Drivel is your MO frankly. You add nothing of substance to these threads. You should just be silent.
Why is the criteria for Ashwin to only outperform Lyon in Australia once? Lyon can have an odd bad series it's completely unrelated to Ashwin. And if Lyon outperforms him in the other three series, what does that say?
This is where you are letting your own subjective bias dictate how you assess quality by attaching your sense of series worth it.
He ain’t even a top 20 pacer of all time.
he has won zero series at home against india at famously non spinny venues for a decade
hmm who could this really be about
Hmmmm...... Is alright at home and got outperformed by Ashwin every single time they played together, is alright at England and hardly better, is better in SA but who cares as he is still **** there, and to top it all of, is mid asf in SL and Pakistan; but you will celebrate those because he has won matches (not even series, in turning tracks, where he should do well regularly). He is at best around equal in non turners and miles behind when the ball turns (you know, places you actually expect your spinners to win matches). At best comparable to Jadeja.
4th Best imo. Bill O'Reilly's record is basically perfect and imo he would had been better than Warne and Murali without the War pretty clearly.
Yeah but 4th best still = candidate for 3rd best IMO. I am not very keen or interested in rating players I have not seen. I will take other people who have watched more cricket than me on their word. So even if I put O'Reilly at 3, just the fact that Ash can be in that argument makes him that much greater.
Not really.
