Ravi Bopara - another pretender?

[Neil Pickup]

Well if he thinks he lacks it mentally, it is obvious he shouldn't be batting at 3 in the ashes.

How do u quote like that?

Sorry i'm a noob.

The "Quote" button at the bottom of the particular post.

On topic - yeah, not good enough... but nor is Bell, nor Shah...

 

[whoami]

I agree on Bell and Shah, Bell definitely lacks the mental toughness, he gets too nervous and has apologetic body language.

Thanks.

 

[Burgey]

Reckon Bopara can make it tbh. Can score around the wicket at a good clip.

Don't think he's a three in tests though.

 

[JBH001]

Nah. Joyce & Trott seem the favorites.

Big ask for them, especially Trott, to bat at #3 in a likely deciding final test.

 

[pup11]

Reckon Bopara can make it tbh. Can score around the wicket at a good clip.

Don't think he's a three in tests though.

As I said in my previous post, it doesn't matter whether he bats at no.3 or 6, with the kind of technical problems he has, he is going to get exposed by any decent bowling attack.

He looks like a natural stroke-player, but unless and until he doesn't develop a decent defense to keep the good balls out, it really doesn't matter how many shots he has in his arsenal.

 

[Uppercut]

He's looked horrendous. Odd, because his century on day one at Lord's against the West Indies was in tougher conditions and against better bowling than he'd had to face from the Aussies before yesterday. Maybe he can be given another shot some time but I don't think you can have him in the team currently playing the way he is.

 

[GIMH]

Shouldn't have played this Test and should only play the next if we're 2-0 up (which is of course a big ask)

 

[marc71178]

I know it's not an exact science, but for each of the counties, their number 3 (either current match or most recent match) is as follows:

Derbyshire - Park, typical county pro in his mid 20s, mid 30's career average, low 30's average this season.
Durham - Smith, typical county pro in his mid 20s, low 30's career and seasonal average.
Essex - Westley, 20 year old, mid 20's career average, maybe in a few years he'll progress beyond typical county pro.
Glamorgan - Powell, typical county pro in his early/mid 30s, low 40's career and seasonal average.
Gloucestershire - Marshall (batted 4 behind a nightwatchman), not qualified.
Hampshire - Crawley, nearly 38 and declining.
Kent - Jones, tried and failed, rated very highly in the Corrin household, but not in many other places.
Lancashire - Loye, typical county pro in his mid/late 30s, low 40's career average.
Leicestershire - Dippenaar, not qualified.
Middlesex - Shah, tried and failed, rated very highly in the Shah household, but not in many other places.
Northamptonshire - White, typical county pro in his late 20s, mid 30's career average, high 20's average this season.
Nottinghamshire - Wagh, typical county pro in his early/mid 30s, high 30's career and seasonal average.
Somerset - Langer, not qualified.
Surrey - Ramprakash. Nuff said.
Sussex - Joyce, played international one day cricket before. Mid 40's career and seasonal average. Hadn't realised he was already 30, but still has 3 or 4 years in him potentially.
Warwickshire - Troughton, typical county pro in his early 30s, high 30's career and seasonal average.
Worcestershire - Solanki, typical county pro in his early/mid 30s, high 30's career and high 40's seasonal average.
Yorkshire - McGrath, typical county pro in his early/mid 30s, high 30's career and seasonal average.

So the cupboard isn't bare, but if it were my cupboard I'd be off down the supermarket to get some more provisions in PDQ.

 

[wpdavid]

I know it's not an exact science, but for each of the counties, their number 3 (either current match or most recent match) is as follows:

Derbyshire - Park, typical county pro in his mid 20s, mid 30's career average, low 30's average this season.
Durham - Smith, typical county pro in his mid 20s, low 30's career and seasonal average.
Essex - Westley, 20 year old, mid 20's career average, maybe in a few years he'll progress beyond typical county pro.
Glamorgan - Powell, typical county pro in his early/mid 30s, low 40's career and seasonal average.
Gloucestershire - Marshall (batted 4 behind a nightwatchman), not qualified.
Hampshire - Crawley, nearly 38 and declining.
Kent - Jones, tried and failed, rated very highly in the Corrin household, but not in many other places.
Lancashire - Loye, typical county pro in his mid/late 30s, low 40's career average.
Leicestershire - Dippenaar, not qualified.
Middlesex - Shah, tried and failed, rated very highly in the Shah household, but not in many other places.
Northamptonshire - White, typical county pro in his late 20s, mid 30's career average, high 20's average this season.
Nottinghamshire - Wagh, typical county pro in his early/mid 30s, high 30's career and seasonal average.
Somerset - Langer, not qualified.
Surrey - Ramprakash. Nuff said.
Sussex - Joyce, played international one day cricket before. Mid 40's career and seasonal average. Hadn't realised he was already 30, but still has 3 or 4 years in him potentially.
Warwickshire - Troughton, typical county pro in his early 30s, high 30's career and seasonal average.
Worcestershire - Solanki, typical county pro in his early/mid 30s, high 30's career and high 40's seasonal average.
Yorkshire - McGrath, typical county pro in his early/mid 30s, high 30's career and seasonal average.

So the cupboard isn't bare, but if it were my cupboard I'd be off down the supermarket to get some more provisions in PDQ.

As you say, not bare but a horrible indictment of standards in the CC. The other thing to bear in mind is openers who could do a job at 3. But I can see why people are pushing for Joyce based on the above.

 

[Uppercut]

Joyce seems like the only option. If in doubt, bring in someone who isn't English.

 

[GIMH]

Ireland is the same country as England in cricket IIRC

 

[Uppercut]

Oh yeah!

We play you guys on the 27th at Stormont. Tickets are a horrendously overpriced £35, and we'll probably get stuffed. But I'll inevitably go anyway because on the off-chance that we beat England I refuse to miss it.

Please pick Eoin Morgan too.

 

[GIMH]

Is it televised?

 

[Uppercut]

I don't know. Probably not. Can't remember a non-WC/Wt20 game involving Ireland being televised before.

 

[GIMH]

Is it not an ODI though? Sky pretty much show all England ODIs

 

[Uppercut]

Yeah, it is. Hopefully they'll show it then.

 

[Son Of Coco]

Can you do us a favour and get on the next plane to England and tell Shane Warne that? He is almost becoming OCD on talking about how Bopara is batting out of position.

Warne probably means he should be batting 11

 

[BoyBrumby]

If we want another pretender maybe Chrisse Hynde?

 

[wpdavid]

If we want another pretender maybe Chrisse Hynde?

Occasionally thought she had a passing resemblance to Jeff Thomson.

 

[whoami]

After Bopara just went first ball i think it would be stupid playing him in the final test.
Denly, Joyce, Carberry, Trott, there plenty potential replacements.
We need double centuries from Bell and Cook now lol.