Jarquis
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Wow, what an observation. I'd never ever noticed that befor nor has anyone else AFAIK.Funny that half of England's possible batting lineup are born overseas.
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Ravi Bopara - another pretender?
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Jarquis
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Unless of course they are a genuine number 3?
I wouldn't mind Joyce being there tbh. Just find it interesting that everybody we try there "looks better suited to 5 or 6". Bopara shouldn't have played the shot he did today in the situation. IMO somebody with the correct approach for a Test number 3 would not have played such a shot.
Prince EWS
Global Moderator
Personally, I think blaming his batting position is a bit of a cop-out. He hasn't looked like he's out of position to me; he's just looked terrible. Much as he did against Sri Lanka when he batted #6, funnily enough.
Jarquis
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
I'm not blaming his batting position, "the looks better suited to 5 or 6" is a line banded about by the commentary team quite often tbh. I don't agree with it. I don't think he would look a Test class batsmen anywhere he bats. On the prinicple I don't believe him to be a Test quality batsman.
Prince EWS
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I didn't quote your post; mine wasn't directed at you specifically.
Scaly piscine
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Yea Bopara is just ****. End of story. Mentally feeble and has a bad technique. Oh and he likes to hit shots at head-height through the infield.
Recipe for a totally abject Test batsman.
Recipe for a totally abject Test batsman.
Son Of Coco
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I wouldn't even call it 'a shot'. It's like he just puts his bat out there at an angle in a vain attempt to stop the ball. Looks weird, and he's done it twice this series now.
Uppercut
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Yeah, was going to say something like that too. Vaughan's form over the past four years would suggest that he wasn't a world class cricketer because... he wasn't a world class cricketer. Mediocre batsman, or "solid batsman" if you want to spin it that way.
Excellent captain though.
JBH001
International Regular
Agreed. Not there technically, not there mentally. Just ****.
Still, assuming as looks likely, that the series is all square at the Oval, who comes in at #3? Certainly not Bell, I dont think Colly is upto it. Is there a case for come back Tresco all is forgiven - at least for one test?
morgieb
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Nah. Joyce & Trott seem the favorites.
Jakester1288
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He said that is England were in dire jeopardy he would come back for a one off Test match if needed, I am pretty sure he was mainly talking about injuries.
Jakester1288
International Regular
On the topic of the thread, he is rubbish. A few tons against West Indies isn't that impressive. I'm surprised England persisted with him after 3 games - I'd much rather see Bopara coming in than Shah from an Australian perspective.
Micheal Carberry
I think Micheal Carberry has a solid technique for Test cricket, Graham Thorpe thinks so too. He could take Cookes place or bat at 3.
Also i think Joyce is developing well, if he keeps getting big scores like the 180 odd he got this week he should get picked.
i've never rated Collingwood, ye he battles well but if he gets in early and the ball is swinging he gets out everytime. I'd replace him with Trott, i know that will never happen cos they love Colly in the dressing room.
I think Micheal Carberry has a solid technique for Test cricket, Graham Thorpe thinks so too. He could take Cookes place or bat at 3.
Also i think Joyce is developing well, if he keeps getting big scores like the 180 odd he got this week he should get picked.
i've never rated Collingwood, ye he battles well but if he gets in early and the ball is swinging he gets out everytime. I'd replace him with Trott, i know that will never happen cos they love Colly in the dressing room.
Craig
World Traveller
Can you do us a favour and get on the next plane to England and tell Shane Warne that? He is almost becoming OCD on talking about how Bopara is batting out of position.
Craig
World Traveller
And he has also said Bopara should not be at 3.
pup11
International Coach
He just isn't a test batsman for me atm, a lot of people think pushing him down to no.6 from no.3 would solve all his problem, but with a technique like his, he would be found out very quickly against most bowling attacks irrespective where he bats.
Won't deny that he has some potential, but he needs to develop a better defensive technique first, and therefore he needs to go back to Essex and work on his game, but the problem with England is, that his replacements probably aren't any better than him either (maybe Rob Key is the only exception).