Ranking the candidates for the second best batsman after the Don. 25 contenders

[mr_mister]

Do we feel Worrell over Miandad? To include all 3 of the 3 W's alongside the 3 H's? Worrel averaged a fair bit less than Walcott an Weekes, but I know many lump the 3 of them together in the same class

 

[Teuton]

Admirable job here mr. You probably need to make some executive decisions otherwise it will never get sorted. Personally i reckon your initial list is so close that you should go with it.

 

[vitalogy83]

+1 for Barry being included for me too. It's hard to ignore him when you've seen his 325 in a day game. Ridiculously wonderful batsmanship.

 

[vitalogy83]

Yea the original list is pretty good for me too.

You are just missing Bradvoges.

 

[mr_mister]

Admirable job here mr. You probably need to make some executive decisions otherwise it will never get sorted. Personally i reckon your initial list is so close that you should go with it.

yeah fair point. Some people might only visit the thread once and not come back. So let's begin ranking 'em



No Worrell, No Younis, I kept Miandad. It's all good. I truly think we were arguging over the names who wouldn't even crack the top 15 (though I'm sure OS would have placed Younis very high) which I think was wasting time


So yeah,


The list is finalised. Begin Ranking. I'm going to wait til there'es at least 30 votes. If that takes 2 months so be it.



WG Grace
KS Ranji
Victor Trumper
Jack Hobbs
Herb Sutcliffe
Wally Hammond
George Headley
Len Hutton
Everton Weekes
Clyde Walcott
Gary Sobers
Graeme Pollock
Barry Richards
Greg Chappell
Sunil Gavaskar
Javed Miandad
Viv Richards
Allan Border
Steve Waugh
Sachin Tendulkar
Brian Lara
Ricky Ponting
Rahul Dravid
Jacques Kallis
Kumar Sangakkarra

 

[vitalogy83]

MM - I haven't done one of these rankings before..do I just list the 25 in order of who I think is best to least best? And just post my list here?

 

[mr_mister]

MM - I haven't done one of these rankings before..do I just list the 25 in order of who I think is best to least best? And just post my list here?

Yep exactly that.


And that reminds me, include FC and Test in your ranking. The weighting you give to those 2 things is up to you but I guess try and lean toward more test? Since that's where the tough conditions and good bowlers were found



This will obviously mean some people rank Grace near the top and some near the bottom. Likewise with Barry Richards. So be it. It'l keep things exciting

 

[vitalogy83]

Yep exactly that.


And that reminds me, include FC and Test in your ranking. The weighting you give to those 2 things is up to you but I guess try and lean toward more test? Since that's where the tough conditions and good bowlers were found


This will obviously mean some people rank Grace near the top and some near the bottom. So be it. It'l keep things exciting

When you say include FC and Tests you mean consider both records when ranking them right? I only post 1 list not 2, correct?

 

[mr_mister]

When you say include FC and Tests you mean consider both records when ranking them right? I only post 1 list not 2, correct?

yes, only 1 list.

2 lists would probably scare people off.

 

[bagapath]

My list

The first ten

Sobers
V.Richards
Hobbs
Hutton
Tendulkar
Lara
Hammond
Grace
Gavaskar
G. Chappell

The next ten

G.Headley
Ponting
Sangakara
S. Waugh
Miandad
Border
H.Sutcliffe
Weekes
Steve Smith
G.Pollock

The last Five

Kallis
Dravid
Trumper
Compton
Adam Gilchrist

Just missing out

Hayden
Younis Khan
Harvey
AB de Villiers
Clem Hill

 

[mr_mister]

Can you please just stick to the list I posted? No Gilly or Compton in the final 25. For the sake of it being a better qualitative exercise

 

[vitalogy83]

@MM Just confirming that this is the final list we are gonna be ranking

WG Grace
KS Ranji
Victor Trumper
Jack Hobbs
Herb Sutcliffe
Wally Hammond
George Headley
Len Hutton
Everton Weekes
Clyde Walcott
Gary Sobers
Graeme Pollock
Barry Richards
Greg Chappell
Sunil Gavaskar
Javed Miandad
Viv Richards
Allan Border
Steve Waugh
Sachin Tendulkar
Brian Lara
Ricky Ponting
Rahul Dravid
Jacques Kallis
Kumar Sangakkarra

 

[Coronis]

Some very difficult decisions here for me, happy with the first 9, but after that it becomes very messy.
Sobers
Hobbs
Tendulkar
Hammond
Headley
Sutcliffe
Hutton
Pollock
Chappell
Lara
V. Richards
Sangakkara
Kallis
Ponting
Dravid
Grace
Gavaskar
Weekes
Walcott
Miandad
Border
Waugh
Trumper
B. Richards
Ranji

 

[mr_mister]

@MM Just confirming that this is the final list we are gonna be ranking

WG Grace
KS Ranji
Victor Trumper
Jack Hobbs
Herb Sutcliffe
Wally Hammond
George Headley
Len Hutton
Everton Weekes
Clyde Walcott
Gary Sobers
Graeme Pollock
Barry Richards
Greg Chappell
Sunil Gavaskar
Javed Miandad
Viv Richards
Allan Border
Steve Waugh
Sachin Tendulkar
Brian Lara
Ricky Ponting
Rahul Dravid
Jacques Kallis
Kumar Sangakkarra

Yeah that's it

 

[Red]

Sobers
V.Richards
Tendulkar
Hutton
Hobbs
Headley
Sutcliffe
Pollock
Chappell
B.Richards
Lara
Hammond
Trumper
Ponting
Gavaskar
Sangakkara
Kallis
Ranji
Grace
Walcott
Miandad
Border
Weekes
Dravid
Waugh

 

[OverratedSanity]

Grace
Viv
Tendulkar
Sobers
Hutton
Hobbs
Lara
Chappell
Hammond
Ponting
Gavaskar
Sangakkara
Dravid
Trumper
Border
Waugh
Headley
Pollock
Kallis
Miandad
Sutcliffe
Walcott
Weekes
Ranji
Barry Richards

 

[Teuton]

Hobbs
Sobers
Hammond
Hutton
G. Pollock
Headley
Sangakkara
Sutcliffe
Weekes
Tendulkar
Miandad
Lara
Gavaskar
V. Richards
G. Chappell
B. Richards
Kallis
Border
Walcott
Grace
Trumper
Ponting
Dravid
Ranji
S. Waugh

 

[srbhkshk]

Tendulkar
V Richards
Lara
Ponting
Sobers
Gavaskar
Border
Waugh
Sangakkara
Grace
Hobbs
Hutton
Hammond
Sutcliffe
Headley
Weekes
Chappell
Dravid
Kallis
Trumper
Walcott
Pollock
B Richards
Miandad
Ranji


(General combination of what I know + don't rate past players very highly)

 

[Himannv]

Sanga ahead of Compton? Surely not.

 

[ankitj]

What crock of ****. If people think he's 2nd best then he has to be be included otherwise where do you draw the line?

How do you manage to sound so pissed all the time?