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Ponting won't let it rest.

greg

International Debutant
Slats4ever said:
I dunno. The ICC must view something as being wrong otherwise they wouldn't act on it.
They're not. They're just paying lip service to the Australians.
 

Slats4ever

International Vice-Captain
what are you on greg?

they've just released that they will police it. They're hardly going to do it just to make Australia happy.

This proves to all those people who wanted to hide behind the thin sheet of "it's ok what England are doing because it's not illegal" now have a problem. It's not illegal now, but it may well be soon IMO.
 

greg

International Debutant
Slats4ever said:
what are you on greg?

they've just released that they will police it. They're hardly going to do it just to make Australia happy.

This proves to all those people who wanted to hide behind the thin sheet of "it's ok what England are doing because it's not illegal" now have a problem. It's not illegal now, but it may well be soon IMO.
What will be illegal, precisely? And how precisely are they going to 'police' it (whatever "it" is)?
 
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vic_orthdox

Global Moderator
greg said:
What will be illegal, precisely? And how precisely are they going to 'police' it (whatever "it" is)?
The use of the 12th man in its entirety. No longer will he even be allowed to bring out drinks, nor gloves - not even sub field.

Under the new rules, Jason Gillespie would have been forced to sit at fine leg for the rest of the game after his clash in Sri Lanka, to ensure that he wasn't getting treatment on what may not have been a serious injury, and Steve Waugh would have had to use his red hanky to dry up the blood from his broken nose.

Nor are doctors and physios are not allowed on the ground, in case they too are specialist fielders in disguise. Drinks can not be consumed in between drinks breaks, and if a player needs to go to the toilet, he must drop a knee into a beer bottle - as any cricketer worth their salt would have learnt to have done by the time they make their Test debut.

Understood? :sleep:
 

Slats4ever

International Vice-Captain
greg said:
What will be illegal, precisely? And how precisely are they going to 'police' it (whatever "it" is)?
man i don't even know i'm just going by what I heard on the news this morning. Settle down pal.
 

greg

International Debutant
OK, I'll cancel the bold type :-)

I just thought that if IYO it would soon be illegal, you might be able to enlighten us on what 'it' is!
 
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SquidAU

First Class Debutant
Slats4ever said:
what are you on greg?

they've just released that they will police it. They're hardly going to do it just to make Australia happy.

This proves to all those people who wanted to hide behind the thin sheet of "it's ok what England are doing because it's not illegal" now have a problem. It's not illegal now, but it may well be soon IMO.
Maybe they are doing it to shut Ponting up before he gets himself a test ban.... :ph34r:

Ponting does need to shut up about it and get on with the job. The Aussies need a win next test or the Ashes are gone.

At least for the next 18 months! :p
 

honestbharani

Whatever it takes!!!
Man, that guy Ponting is whinier than I ever thought. I mean, I knew he was a whiner the way he went on about the Mumbai wicket. Sure, it was a bad wicket, but it was the same for both sides and it doesn't take away the fact that Australia batted extremely poorly and India bowled really well to win that test. You would expect the world champions to score 100 runs no matter what the conditions are. But he simply refused to say one word about the poor batting or the good bowling. All he talked about was "the good cricket we played the whole series" and "the wicket was not test standard". I seriously think this guy is going to cause the down fall of Aussie cricket... Not that Australia will become crap or anything, just that he is influencing his bad attitude on to some of the youngsters...
 

vic_orthdox

Global Moderator
honestbharani said:
I seriously think this guy is going to cause the down fall of Aussie cricket... Not that Australia will become crap or anything, just that he is influencing his bad attitude on to some of the youngsters...
This is actually quite a good point. We all saw how, as he captained a team of youngsters, Allan Border's ethos was imprinted on the next generation of Australian players. Now Ponting is going to be in a position where he does the same thing, when he loses the senior players to retirement. He has tremendous responsibility to create a similar culture within the Australian side, and thus far he hasn't done the best job of it.

Mind you, he has plenty of time to alter that. He is still in his infancy as captain, and will grow into the role.
 

honestbharani

Whatever it takes!!!
vic_orthdox said:
This is actually quite a good point. We all saw how, as he captained a team of youngsters, Allan Border's ethos was imprinted on the next generation of Australian players. Now Ponting is going to be in a position where he does the same thing, when he loses the senior players to retirement. He has tremendous responsibility to create a similar culture within the Australian side, and thus far he hasn't done the best job of it.

Mind you, he has plenty of time to alter that. He is still in his infancy as captain, and will grow into the role.
I am not saying he won't improve. But for Australia's sake, I hope he does that quickly. Plus attitudes can be hard to change and to me, unlike Steve Waugh or Mark Taylor, Ponting has a defeatist attitude. He seems to be extremely defensive, like what Sourav is today. He is not willing to point fingers at his own players, trying to find all sorts of other excuses and refer to past performances to justify present selections... I think both INdia and Australia are on the way down.
 

honestbharani

Whatever it takes!!!
parttimer said:
The game was over in 2 days. This means the pitch was not up to international standard. What is your point.
My point is, even on that pitch, the world champions could have scored a 100. Their batters played badly is of more consequence than the fact that the pitch was bad. At least, the pitch was bad for both teams. On the same pitch on the same day, Laxman and Tendulkar batted as well as they could have done on any flat track and dominated McGrath, Gillespie and Kasper... Not often that happened in that series.
 

greg

International Debutant
honestbharani said:
My point is, even on that pitch, the world champions could have scored a 100. Their batters played badly is of more consequence than the fact that the pitch was bad. At least, the pitch was bad for both teams. On the same pitch on the same day, Laxman and Tendulkar batted as well as they could have done on any flat track and dominated McGrath, Gillespie and Kasper... Not often that happened in that series.
Er, Clarke: 6-9 :blink:
 

honestbharani

Whatever it takes!!!
yeah, but he didn't get Sachin or Laxman, did he? The point is, runs could have been made on that track if the batters applied themselves and if they had a bit of quality. I think Australia had a lot of the latter but very little of the former and consequently lost. Everyone knew it was a bad pitch, but THAT was not the reason Australia lost. And for Ponting to keep harping on that and failing to see his own side's mistakes just showed me that he was extremely thick headed.
 

Slow Love™

International Captain
vic_orthdox said:
Mind you, he has plenty of time to alter that. He is still in his infancy as captain, and will grow into the role.
If it wasn't for the Robin Williams-like forearms (and what the hell is UP with that when he's got so little on his head????), you could be excused for thinking he was an infant full-stop. Just look at that babyface. It seems like yesterday he was doing Milo ads, chirping "Hey kids!" in a near-falsetto.
 

honestbharani

Whatever it takes!!!
Slow Love™ said:
If it wasn't for the Robin Williams-like forearms (and what the hell is UP with that when he's got so little on his head????), you could be excused for thinking he was an infant full-stop. Just look at that babyface. It seems like yesterday he was doing Milo ads, chirping "Hey kids!" in a near-falsetto.
His receding hairline, on the other hand, gives him a Geoff Boycott like look, AFAIC. :D
 

luckyeddie

Cricket Web Staff Member
My last word on this rubbish

Slats4ever said:
I heard on the news this morning that the ICC is going to police England from now on...

Well that has to be some welcome and "fair" news.
You seem to be inferring from your statement that England had been transgressing some written law, when clearly that is not the case.

Ponting maintains that he has complained 3 times - but so what? He says that England bowlers are going off for a massage, England maintain that they are going off to 'rehydrate' (a splash, a spit and a wazz).

It's like you going to the shop and complaining about the price of raw prawns or tinnies. You can complain until you're blue in the breasts, but the price won't come down unless the store agrees with you.
 

Slow Love™

International Captain
honestbharani said:
His receding hairline, on the other hand, gives him a Geoff Boycott like look, AFAIC. :D
I still reckon the George Bush comparison is the best (even if he does have a full head of hair) - I'm amazed it took us all these years to spot it though. :)
 

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