Playing selector: Lets pick the best test XI of different eras

[shortpitched713]

Also, the 1966-85 World Test 2nd XI is not bad either

1. Geoff Boycott (47.84)
2. Glenn Turner (44.64)
3. David Gower (45.63)
4. Javed Miandad (56.91)
5. Allan Border (51.62)
6. Imran Khan (31.22) (bowl: 22.43)
7. Rod Marsh + (26.51)
8. Joel Garner (12.95) (bowl: 21.78)
9. Michael Holding (12.88) (bowl: 23.23)
10. Jeff Thomson (12.81) (bowl: 28.00)
11. Bishen Bedi (8.98) (bowl: 28.71)

On its day could destroy the first XI, IMO.

 

[PhoenixFire]

On its day could destroy the first XI, IMO.

That's a good point, and true. All of these lot were world beaters on their day.

 

[Matt79]

Is it just me or is this thread suddenly attracting a lot of random posting?

 

[pietersenrocks]

Please add Dean Jones to the Middle Order (I know there are three better batsman, but with a test average of 46.55 and his phenomenal 210 vs India in 86, he should at least be considered).

Yes,he played well for Australia it was unfortunate that he doesn't play long.

 

[aussie tragic]

Is it just me or is this thread suddenly attracting a lot of random posting?

Do you mean like the two posts above that are dragging up some of the original posts from 3-months ago (Pietersonrocks & Dennie Crane), or are you confused because Bagapath was shortsighted and named the thread "over the last 2 decades" instead of "over previous decades" (I suggested a new thread for each double decade, but he wouldn't be in it )

 

[aussie tragic]

On its day could destroy the first XI, IMO.

I actually think the 2nd XI attack comprising Garner, Holding, Thomson and Imran almost sounds more intimidating then the 1st XI (Marshall, Lillee, Hadlee & Botham). Good thing Underwood and Sobers is more impressive than Bedi and Border

 

[vic_orthdox]

You guys happy for a change to the thread name? Us moderators can do that...

 

[bagapath]

You guys happy for a change to the thread name? Us moderators can do that...

Yeah. please change it to "Playing selector: Lets pick the best test XI from different eras"

 

[Matt79]

Do you mean like the two posts above that are dragging up some of the original posts from 3-months ago (Pietersonrocks & Dennie Crane), or are you confused because Bagapath was shortsighted and named the thread "over the last 2 decades" instead of "over previous decades" (I suggested a new thread for each double decade, but he wouldn't be in it )

The former, without quoting what they were responding to...

 

[Matt79]

On its day could destroy the first XI, IMO.

Safe to say "its day" wouldn't happen that often against the first team. Also, it's probably a bit unfair to include Imran in the 2nd team, because a lot of people (I assume) didn't vote for him here on the grounds they considered him "unavailable", having been selected for the 86-2005 team. So then its probably Tony Greig at 6.

 

[aussie tragic]

Also, it's probably a bit unfair to include Imran in the 2nd team, because a lot of people (I assume) didn't vote for him here on the grounds they considered him "unavailable", having been selected for the 86-2005 team. So then its probably Tony Greig at 6.

Actually, it would be Kapil Dev as Tong Greig didn't get any votes

 

[aussie tragic]

Yeah. please change it to "Playing selector: Lets pick the best test XI from different eras"

^ what he said

 

[Matt79]

Actually, it would be Kapil Dev as Tong Greig didn't get any votes

Fair enough, I couldn't be bothered going to check my facts. Doesn't change my argument however.

 

[aussie tragic]

I've added the following nominees to the 1946-65 XI:

Batsmen

Geoff Pullar (Eng) - Opener
Dudley Nourse (SA) - # 4
Graeme Pollock (SA) - # 4 (Waiver granted as 14 tests, but career split over 2 selection periods)
Peter Parfitt (Eng) - # 5

Allrounders

Dennis Atkinson(WI)
Collie Smith (WI)

Wicketkeeper

Gerry Alexander (WI)

Pace Bowlers

Frank Tyson (Eng)
Peter Pollock (SA)

While the following "Greats" are excluded due to not meeting minimum 15 test requirement during the period:

Don Bradman (Aus) - 15 tests but is not considered as he will be in 1919-39 XI (probably captain)
Sid Barnes (Aus) - 12 tests (not fair on other batsmen if he's nominated as he only had 17 Innings)
John Edrich (Eng) - 11 tests

 

[oz_fan]

Is there any way of getting Graeme Pollock in. I think he deseves to be at least in the running for one of the eras.

 

[PhoenixFire]

Why have the 'Greats' been excluded?

 

[aussie tragic]

Baga, after reading all of the debate on the SA vs 66-85 XI, I'm starting to think we should just stick to 20 tests minimum throughout so that it's clear and therefore no confusion (there are loads of people that meet the 20 test criteria).

Now, having said that, we have granted waivers before for people that were close to the criteria, so I propose a waiver for Peter Pollock who played 19 tests in this period, which is close enough considering he did play more than 20 tests in his career (just over 2 selection periods).

Note: Bradman will be in the 1926-45 XI (or 1919-39 XI due to wars), while Graeme Pollock should get a wild card for the Post-War XI due to him playing > 20 tests over two selection periods, without qualifying for either.

 

[aussie tragic]

You guys happy for a change to the thread name? Us moderators can do that...

Thanks for changing the title of this thread

 

[vic_orthdox]

No worries.

 

[Matt79]

I've added the following nominees to the 1946-65 XI:

Batsmen

Geoff Pullar (Eng) - Opener
Dudley Nourse (SA) - # 4
Peter Parfitt (Eng) - # 5

Allrounders

Dennis Atkinson(WI)
Collie Smith (WI)

Wicketkeeper

Gerry Alexander (WI)

While the following "Greats" are excluded due to not meeting minimum 20 test requirement during the period:

Frank Tyson (Eng) - 17 tests (unlucky)
Don Bradman (Aus) - 15 tests (will be in 1919-39 XI)
Graeme Pollock (SA) - 14 tests (can be given a wild card for post-war XI as > 20 tests in that period)
Sid Barnes (Aus) - 12 tests (unlucky)
John Edrich (Eng) - 11 tests

Speak up if any major objections as I'll start the polls tomorrow

We can't make it >10 tests? I'm happy for Bradman to be kept to the 19-39 team, but people should have the opportunity to vote for Tyson, Pollock and Barnes if they want to.