Yes, really (and quite obviously).
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Pat Cummins
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To myself, the truth of the second sentence rules out the claim in the first. I think most linguists would agree that for many and varied reasons (that can, but don't always amount to a lack of comprehension) the English language doesn't work the same for all. As you correctly say, this causes much confusion at times.
the big bambino
Cricketer Of The Year
I read that as a concession speech.
the big bambino
Cricketer Of The Year
So it was?
Yes, my point certainly was both verified and demonstrated by another poster (though unwittingly). Should have been obvious anyway.
Now, let's move on...
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subshakerz
Hall of Fame Member
Stokes had something to do with that.
Spark
Global Moderator
Stokes had absolutely nothing to do with that in the second innings.
loterry1994
International Debutant
Can’t remember who said it think it was Healy or Tubby but they said it best a few days ago. His a good captain when it all goes well but when his under pressure and the other side is going good that’s when some his poor tactics and mistakes start to show. I honestly think Stokes is a better captain than him with a lesser side but both have had their issues this ashes
Think stokes declaration calls and critics have been a bit harsh because test 1 it definitively looked like the right call at the time with them needing 2 wickets and like 60 odd runs to play with most teams win that situation 90% of the time . The last test I thought the declaration did come late but the forecast were all over the place on the weekend a lot of people thought we would get a decent amount of overs still
Think stokes declaration calls and critics have been a bit harsh because test 1 it definitively looked like the right call at the time with them needing 2 wickets and like 60 odd runs to play with most teams win that situation 90% of the time . The last test I thought the declaration did come late but the forecast were all over the place on the weekend a lot of people thought we would get a decent amount of overs still
ParwazHaiJunoon
First Class Debutant
Cummins has never seen a ball like bazball before.
ParwazHaiJunoon
First Class Debutant
There were dodgy forecasts for last day. That might be a factor in early declaration.
Wouldn't say it was the right call but I wouldn't say it was a bad call. Had they taken a couple of wickets at the back end of day one, it would have been a masterstroke. But as the poster says, when Lyon came to the crease in the fourth innings England were massive favourites. England lost the game there not because of a declaration.
Prince EWS
Global Moderator
It was one of the worst calls I've seen in the history of cricket and I said so at the time.
If it 'worked' I'd still be saying it so I can't be too hard on those sticking to their guns in the opposite direction, but you are wrong and you should feel bad.
I'm pretty sure first innings declarations should be illegal unless you're willing to automatically forfeit your second innings.
Molehill
Cricketer Of The Year
And if they hadn't declared Lyon comes to the crease with maybe another 50 needed. It was a **** declaration, we all know it (and said so at the time) and it undoubtedly had a huge impact on the result of that Test. No other team would give away their best batsman's wicket for free when he's on 118 and seeing it like a football. They ****ed up, they'll never admit it (although Root has suggested as much) but that was where Bazball needed to apply a little common sense (along with the first innings batting at Lord's).
Gob
International Coach
It sure is but some times they are like eww stick it somewhere else
Australian cricket needs Pat Cummins as their bowler. they have many batters for the role of captaincy.
