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Pakistan Tour of South Africa 2018/19

Dendarii

International Debutant
Don't want to be greedy but these two need to get 100s

It feels like ages since they have done so in tests. So many 50s.
It has been ages. Two years for De Kock, and about 15 months for Amla, although that was two centuries against Bangladesh, so it becomes two years for him as well if you don't count those.
 

artvandalay

State Vice-Captain
That really took off a length. Unplayable that. Well played hash. More of the old amla in this game. All.of qdk, faf and amla.are back in form.
 

StephenZA

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
It has been ages. Two years for De Kock, and about 15 months for Amla, although that was two centuries against Bangladesh, so it becomes two years for him as well if you don't count those.
Yeah. But there needs to be a caveat batting on pitches like this in SA. Markram looked set for 2 tons and got great balls. Amla looked set for a ton here. 1 ton in this series. India and Aus series where not a great deal better.
 

Bahseph

International Debutant
Do we need five bowlers in India? I don't think so if the pitches are anything like the ones we got last time around. I don't think they will be that bad though, Maharaj is the best spinner we have had since 1992. I'd like Hamza and Bavuma in there. The issue is the bowling attack other than Maharaj. Is Dale a certain starter now in a two man pace attack?
 

Dendarii

International Debutant
Pitch curator might be in trouble for this after last year’s farce...
The pitch isn't all that bad. South Africa scored at 3.37 in their first innings (and were even quicker than that when Markram was at crease), Pakistan scored at 3.72, and South Africa are currently going at 3.83. So runs havn't been hard to come by - it's just keeping wickets intact that both teams have found a problem.
 

GRAB

First Class Debutant
I'm sure South Africa aren't minding seeing those unplayable balls, because they're making it look very unlikely for Pak to last long in their innings.

Would be interesting to compare Muthusamy's record as an opener to since he's been moved down to 6/7. I feel like he hasn't adjusted well to that. Do we want more flashy strokeplayers or gritty grafters though?
 

Dendarii

International Debutant
Do we need five bowlers in India? I don't think so if the pitches are anything like the ones we got last time around. I don't think they will be that bad though, Maharaj is the best spinner we have had since 1992. I'd like Hamza and Bavuma in there. The issue is the bowling attack other than Maharaj. Is Dale a certain starter now in a two man pace attack?
Need five bowlers? Perhaps not. Very useful to have five bowlers? Yes, provided the batting isn't compromised.
 

TheJammyTurtle

U19 Cricketer
The pitch isn't all that bad. South Africa scored at 3.37 in their first innings (and were even quicker than that when Markram was at crease), Pakistan scored at 3.72, and South Africa are currently going at 3.83. So runs havn't been hard to come by - it's just keeping wickets intact that both teams have found a problem.
Balls shouldn’t be spitting off a length on day 3 like that one Amla just got,also Hamza got a bit of a shooter yesterday
 

SeamUp

International Coach
Need five bowlers? Perhaps not. Very useful to have five bowlers? Yes, provided the batting isn't compromised.
I think Mulder can be in our best 6 batsman. Being a 3rd seamer for us would be the bonus.

Whilst fast bowling won games for us in India (bar Boje game) is it still possible to go in with 3 front line quicks and win there ? This is what goes through my mind because if we go with 2 front line spinners Mulder is ideal.
 

StephenZA

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Do we need five bowlers in India? I don't think so if the pitches are anything like the ones we got last time around. I don't think they will be that bad though, Maharaj is the best spinner we have had since 1992. I'd like Hamza and Bavuma in there. The issue is the bowling attack other than Maharaj. Is Dale a certain starter now in a two man pace attack?
Yes. Dale has looked really good. Been a bit unlucky in the wicket department. Still one of our best 3 bowlers with Rabada and Philander. And you will play him over Philander in SC. If we play 3 seamers you may want a a more stock bowler like Olivier over Philander. But think 2 spinners with 2 pace men should be fine in India. Expect the spinners to bowl the bulk of the overs anyway.
 

StephenZA

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
I think Mulder can be in our best 6 batsman. Being a 3rd seamer for us would be the bonus.

Whilst fast bowling won games for us in India (bar Boje game) is it still possible to go in with 3 front line quicks and win there ? This is what goes through my mind because if we go with 2 front line spinners Mulder is ideal.
Is Mulder experienced and good enough in SC against spin?
 

SeamUp

International Coach
Is Mulder experienced and good enough in SC against spin?
Is Hamza ? Is Markram ?

Got to back them.

Mulder has been to Sri Lanka & Bangladesh in his short career already. Won't be a totally new culture shock for him.

From growing up on the Highveld perspective he does give me positives with how he allows the ball to come to him and doesn't push with hard hands. I certainly seem to remember that with him. Be good to watch him bat again though.
 
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Dendarii

International Debutant
Is Mulder experienced and good enough in SC against spin?
Is there anyone who you can say without a doubt would be more experienced and better than him?

While it's obviously not ideal for Mulder to make his debut in India, you don't always have the luxury of playing your first match in conditions which are best suited for you. Mulder's come through the system, so he's probably been exposed to subcontinent conditions at some point, which means that they won't be completely foreign to him even if a test match is obviously a step up.
 

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