Coronis
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Underrated in terms of cricketing “experts”, especially players. Many of whom would have him in their first XI and who would proclaim him as the best AR of all time.
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Overrated by CW XI and Underrated by CW XI
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kyear2
International Coach
Sorry, not understanding.
If many of them have him in the 1st XI and the best all-rounder of all time, how is that under rated.
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Earlier this month @PlayerComparisons commented "Barrington is probably the most underrated player on this forum" yet @ma1978 lists him as overrated. This, no doubt, is because of ma1978's sweeping view that the '60s players are overrated in general.
When I first saw the title of this thread, 4 players came to mind when it came to being underrated on CW. There are 2 batsmen (Harvey and Barrington) and 2 bowlers (Lillee and Statham) that I regard as being underrated here.
When I first saw the title of this thread, 4 players came to mind when it came to being underrated on CW. There are 2 batsmen (Harvey and Barrington) and 2 bowlers (Lillee and Statham) that I regard as being underrated here.
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kyear2
International Coach
Because there's no consensus. Some rate his too highly and some just dismiss him. As with all things, the truth is somewhere in the middle.
kyear2
International Coach
shortpitched713
International Captain
He's an incredibly solid bat, and the best Pakistan have had since Miandad.
Shady Slim
International Coach
philander underrated
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Cricketer Of The Year
Here is my hastily prepared CW Underrated XI
Lawry
Morris
Harvey
Barrington
Miandad
Mohinder Amarnath
Kapil Dev
Evans
Lillee
Statham
Laker
An overrated XI is harder as there are always members quick to put down players highly rated by others. I'll work on it and run the risk of leaving myself open for criticism.
Lawry
Morris
Harvey
Barrington
Miandad
Mohinder Amarnath
Kapil Dev
Evans
Lillee
Statham
Laker
An overrated XI is harder as there are always members quick to put down players highly rated by others. I'll work on it and run the risk of leaving myself open for criticism.
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BazBall21
International Vice-Captain
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Mohinder is so underrated I didn't spell his name correctly. (now fixed).
kyear2
International Coach
A mystery as to why he though YK was over rated
PlayerComparisons
International Regular
Probably underrated if anything
kyear2
International Coach
Yeah.
smash84
The Tiger King
A number of people? Seems excessive.
There used to be a time when PEWS thought he was the greatest test cricketer, but he's come around to putting him at 2 now. So I don't know where you get a "number of people"?
He gets underrated in most other places. Seems fairly rated on CW.
PlayerComparisons
International Regular
Yea rated pretty accurately on CW
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Cricketer Of The Year
Looking back on my underrated XI, I'd replace Gower with Clive Lloyd and Laker with Lance Gibbs.
The beauty of a thread such as this is there is no right and wrong. A player perceived as underrated by one may be seen as overrated by another.
Having said that, here is my overrated XI comprised of players I don't right as highly as many others do.
G.Smith
Simpson
Sangakarra
Ponting
Kallis
Chanderpaul
A.Flower
Jadeja
Steyn
Waqar Younis
Swann
The beauty of a thread such as this is there is no right and wrong. A player perceived as underrated by one may be seen as overrated by another.
Having said that, here is my overrated XI comprised of players I don't right as highly as many others do.
G.Smith
Simpson
Sangakarra
Ponting
Kallis
Chanderpaul
A.Flower
Jadeja
Steyn
Waqar Younis
Swann
kyear2
International Coach
Ponting? Besides the late career dip, what's wrong?
Kallis is the 2nd greatest batting all rounder, and it's not close. Mid 50's with the bat, caught everything and was a useful part time bowler.
Didn't know anyone even rated Chanderpaul
Steyn, you don't believe he's top 5? The man, the match winner?
Flem274*
123/5
This is fighting words
Watling wasn't even truly appreciated during his career, though granted I barely read this sub so maybe he's getting some post career love.
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Cricketer Of The Year
I accept your point re Ponting but to rate Kallis so highly as an all-rounder when his bowling is (as described by you) "useful". There are plenty of top batsmen who were "useful" bowlers but they rarely get mentioned in all-rounder discussions.
Chanderpaul? Receives plenty of support here. (See Chanderpaul v Barrington thread)
Steyn? I've watched him in 3 series in Australia where his 31 wickets @ 28.77 was "fair". In England his 2 series produced 23 wickets @ 31.65. Enough said?