*Official* Women's Ashes 2023

[Molehill]

Australia still has significant problems with the pace bowlers but this lot just find ways to win, somehow. Can't teach it

To be fair, they’d found ways to lose the previous 3. And to my surprise, there’s been precious little between the teams.

I’m not sure bowling spin in the final overs is a long term successful strategy and it outlined the pace issue. Having said that, it cost England the match.

Not sure how King got POTM, it was clearly Wareham who decided it.

 

[Lefty]

I don’t know why the Australian selectors did play Alana King in the other limited over games.

 

[Spark]

To be fair, they’d found ways to lose the previous 3. And to my surprise, there’s been precious little between the teams.

I’m not sure bowling spin in the final overs is a long term successful strategy and it outlined the pace issue. Having said that, it cost England the match.

Not sure how King got POTM, it was clearly Wareham who decided it.

Lesser teams would have been belted in those games though, they were a distant second best for most of the running.

 

[Himannv]

Superb from NSB as usual. Best bat in the world in the women's game for me. Too bad she didn't get them the win in the end.

Jones has surprisingly found a bit of form recently and it changes their team a bit. She was a specialist keeper for a good while. England need to tweak the batting order a bit. If they insist on playing Bell, they should really not give her the death overs, she's just not suited to that. I think Wong or Filer should make the side ahead of her.

The Aussies are just so hard to beat. They won this game with sheer never-say-die attitude and perseverance. I don't think they were the better team on the day but they kept at it and deserved the win. It feels like they don't trust Sutherland and McGrath enough at times and Brown hasn't been consistent enough so the spinners are doing most of the work. I think they're missing Lanning.

 

[Molehill]

Lanning is a big miss, but who gets dropped to make way for her? Chances are it's either Wareham or Jonassen who both played a rather large part in the win yesterday. Average games again for Healy and Schutt. Healy maybe struggling with captaincy on top of a heavy workload and may find form back down the order, especially if Lanning returns, but Schutt looks Schott!!

With a bit more know how in the middle order, England could have cruised that chase. Capsey at 3 and Knight at 5 would have made far more sense. It seems we're stuck with Dunkley for one more game as there are no other real options, but she needs to prove herself at domestic level again. Bell has had a decent series, just one bad over, she still took 3 key wickets though.

 

[_Ed_]

Lanning is a big miss, but who gets dropped to make way for her? Chances are it's either Wareham or Jonassen who both played a rather large part in the win yesterday.

At this stage I'd say it's probably Litchfield who'd miss out. As incredibly talented as she is, she might not be quite ready for the big time just yet.

 

[Molehill]

At this stage I'd say it's probably Litchfield who'd miss out. As incredibly talented as she is, she might not be quite ready for the big time just yet.

The problem with that is that Lanning is an all time great middle order player in ODI's and Healy looks shot as an opener. You could move Mooney up I guess (that's not a long term solution), but who else opens?

 

[_Ed_]

Yeah, I'd definitely move Mooney up to open. All of her three ODI hundreds have come opening, and she averages 47.89 from 21 innings in that position. She's still only 29, so should have a good few years left in her IMO. Enormously valuable player.

 

[Himannv]

The problem with that is that Lanning is an all time great middle order player in ODI's and Healy looks shot as an opener. You could move Mooney up I guess (that's not a long term solution), but who else opens?

Healy, Mooney, Lanning, Perry is pretty much an easy top 4 to pick. Mooney has generally opened in limited overs so I don’t think it’s an issue.

 

[Ashes81]

It's been a cracking series and it's a pity it didn't go down to final match.

Congrats to the Aussies for retaining the Ashes - they're a formidable team. The depth they gave in their batting is brutal and that last over ended up being so vital.

But England have been very good as well. To come back after the test defeat, when let's face it, the series looked gone, was a great effort.

Hopefully we can win the last ODI to tie the series as neither team deserves to lose the series.

 

[Molehill]

It's been a cracking series and it's a pity it didn't go down to final match.

Congrats to the Aussies for retaining the Ashes - they're a formidable team. The depth they gave in their batting is brutal and that last over ended up being so vital.

But England have been very good as well. To come back after the test defeat, when let's face it, the series looked gone, was a great effort.

Hopefully we can win the last ODI to tie the series as neither team deserves to lose the series.

I think just the fact the series itself is going down to the final match is an achievement for the English women and one that would have surprised many (especially after going 6-0) down. If they could win the final ODI they'd have effectively won both limited overs series which is an outstanding effort.

 

[ataraxia]

At this stage I'd say it's probably Litchfield who'd miss out. As incredibly talented as she is, she might not be quite ready for the big time just yet.

Disagree – no team in women's cricket should ever drop a quality batter, tbh. There's always easily a bowling option unnecessary.

 

[Ashes81]

I think just the fact the series itself is going down to the final match is an achievement for the English women and one that would have surprised many (especially after going 6-0) down. If they could win the final ODI they'd have effectively won both limited overs series which is an outstanding effort.

Agree 100% and is great for us going forward.

With so little test cricket played by the women, the white ball game is what's its all about and we've shown we're more than a match for them.

 

[Spark]

Disagree – no team in women's cricket should ever drop a quality batter, tbh. There's always easily a bowling option unnecessary.

Yeah I'd sooner drop Sutherland. A real talent but not really playing an impactful role if she's going to bat 7/8 and not bowl much.

 

[Pup Clarke]

Sutherland is an absolute gun, there's no way I'd be dropping her even to accommodate Lanning. Looks like she has a massive up-side and think she has more potential than McGrath actually

 

[Himannv]

I'd probably drop Wareham/Jonassen personally. There are enough spinners with one of them + Gardner and King. Schutt, McGrath, Sunderland, and Perry as pace options sounds alright even if Perry bowls less. They could do with Darcie Brown living up to her potential I think.

 

[Molehill]

England batting first in the series decider........how will Dunkley disappoint me today?

 

[Himannv]

Dean in for Glenn.

 

[Himannv]

England batting first in the series decider........how will Dunkley disappoint me today?

Played five dots and took a single off the last ball to retain the strike.

 

[Molehill]

Played five dots and took a single off the last ball to retain the strike.

That was a truly horrific 13 balls, just smacked of someone who has no clue how they are going to score runs. No plan, no ability to execute, I'd expect better from Number 11's.