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*Official* West Indies Tour of England 2020
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OverratedSanity
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Stokes' consistency is remarkable. Very rare to see a balanced all rounder make contributions with bat and ball in literally every test he plays like he's doing at the moment.
honestbharani
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Stokes is just awesome. Depends on how well his counterpart Holder responds now. Gabriel looked ok for those 3 overs, maybe 3-4 over bursts are all he can offer going forward this test. I think England will wind up with something around 350. Windies could get close to it, 20-30 runs either side. Then we have another great 3rd innings plays 4th innings game in the offing. FWIW, I think the pitch might actually get better for batting by Day 4 and 5.
Starfighter
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Were WI as ragged as they looked in the highlights? Seemed to be really uninspiring stuff.
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They were for most of the day
honestbharani
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Even the pure chance of Chase getting 2 in 2 balls could not knock them back to life.
wpdavid
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I think I read that Stokes averages 50 with the bat over his last 15 tests, which I suppose takes in the whole of 2019 too. Fair effort for an all-rounder.
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Yes. 200 odd for 3 flatters them greatly. Pretty low quality first day from both sides imo.
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Hopefully that average will be on the right side of 40 soon. How good do you think Greig was?
wpdavid
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Better batsman than bowler, and he made three of the outstanding hundreds of that era. By anyone, I mean, not just by an England player. Specifically I'm talking about the first test of the 1974/75 Ashes against Lillee and Thomson when the rest of the side was already shell-shocked, at Leeds in 1976 when we just failed to chase a decent total against the WI, and at Calcutta (as was) in 1976 to set up a famous win. There were other fine innings too. His bowling was handy, but tailed off in the last few years of his career. There is a theory that his greatest moment as a bowler, when he bowled off-spin instead of medium pace to set up a series-levelling win in the Caribbean in 1974 ruined his bowling as he never really settled into one style of bowling thereafter. Also a brilliant slip fielder.
I liked him as a captain too. His win ratio wasn't great, but he was up against peak Australia and WI for his first two years in the job. And yes his 'grovel' comment was idiotic. But he did turn the side around and Brearley inherited a pretty good team from him in 1977.
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Sanjay kumar
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Exciting day 2 of Eng vs Wi, will England post a big total and put pressure on the windies batsman? Or we'll see a twist in the tale on Day 2 of this test match where England are all out under 300! Can't wait to watch how this match unfolds on Day 2
Starfighter
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Like, how's that not a wide?
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Why wait for the new ball?
Sanjay kumar
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Ben Stokes completes 8000 runs in first class cricket, he also has 325 wickets. One of the best all-rounders ever in longer format.