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***Official** West Indies in Pakistan

mohammad16

U19 Captain
you people are amazing fans lol i mostly just watch pakistani matches, or when other great players are in display lara tendulkar peiterson and so on

really its too time consuming
 

Mr Mxyzptlk

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nightprowler10 said:
Ridiculous all round cricket from Pakistan, having a depleted attack is never a good excuse for poor cricket. Kudos to WI for taking full advantage of it.
There are some players in the Pakistan lineup who aren't good enough for ODI cricket IMO, so I think it is an excuse to an extent. Both teams have been understrength in this series, and the absences in the West Indies batting have really been telling.
 

silentstriker

The Wheel is Forever
I tend to watch pretty much every international match played, unless it conflicts with another international match.

Yea, I'm crazy.
 

nightprowler10

Global Moderator
Mr Mxyzptlk said:
There are some players in the Pakistan lineup who aren't good enough for ODI cricket IMO, so I think it is an excuse to an extent. Both teams have been understrength in this series, and the absences in the West Indies batting have really been telling.
Yeah both teams have been without some of their better players, and in the end, unfortunately, it has been a battle between who dropped the least catches and gave up less extras. I think WI pretty much threw the last game away by way of extras and horrible fielding, Pakistan did the same today (though Razzaq's captaincy probably did more harm). In my opinion the first ODI was the only match that could be considered a genuine battle.

BTW, who do you think doesn't belong in ODI cricket as far as today's line up? Just about everybody has done pretty decent in ODIs, even Sami, with the obvious exception of Faisal Iqbal.

Also, does anybody know why Rehman wasn't included in this ODI? He did better than Afridi, with both the bat and the ball.
 

nightprowler10

Global Moderator
silentstriker said:
I tend to watch pretty much every international match played, unless it conflicts with another international match.

Yea, I'm crazy.
Being in the US, you must have a lot of extra cash to be able to watch every international. Even I have to pick and choose between tours, and I make decent money.
 

Dravid

International Captain
nightprowler10 said:
Being in the US, you must have a lot of extra cash to be able to watch every international. Even I have to pick and choose between tours, and I make decent money.
No you don't. Just depends if you feel like paying 100+ dollars, then you have to have a lot of cash. Otherwise anyone who makes decent money can watch every international match. When I'm in America I order everything unless it involved Bangladesh or Zimbabwe, but I only watch it if its on during the day, or during the weekends at night. If it includes India I watch it whenever its on.
 

silentstriker

The Wheel is Forever
nightprowler10 said:
Being in the US, you must have a lot of extra cash to be able to watch every international. Even I have to pick and choose between tours, and I make decent money.
Nah, not a lot. You have to look at, ahem, non-traditional methods.
 

nightprowler10

Global Moderator
Call me stupid, but if the companies showing the games in the US don't make any money from it, eventually we won't have any cricket, PPV or not, being shown in the US.
 

Mr Mxyzptlk

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nightprowler10 said:
BTW, who do you think doesn't belong in ODI cricket as far as today's line up? Just about everybody has done pretty decent in ODIs, even Sami, with the obvious exception of Faisal Iqbal.
Was referring largely to Iqbal, Mohammad Sami and Mohammad Hafeez. I'm fine with Pakistan playing Hafeez as a bowling allrounder, but given the composition of the side, it seems they want him to be a genuine or a batting allrounder. And I'm not sure he's up to that in ODIs.

Mohammad Sami averages 42.75 with an economy rate of 5.07 over the last 2 years and his last 25 ODIs. The argument of "he's still a good ODI bowler" has been dismantled by his ineffectiveness.
 

mohammad16

U19 Captain
they do make enough moeny, they charge liek 50 per match which is ridicoulous


but in canada, a new network ATN, its sub channel CBN shows almost all cricket matches for free

u can get that channel for 5$ monthly

they just bought the rights themselves i think

for example right now CBN is showing, ASHES, PAK WINDIES and india safrica

its crayz
 

Dravid

International Captain
nightprowler10 said:
Call me stupid, but if the companies showing the games in the US don't make any money from it, eventually we won't have any cricket, PPV or not, being shown in the US.
Trust me, there are so many people who don't know about the non traditional methods, and actually buy it. So don't worry about that.

I managed to watch CBN once(figure it how I did when I lived in the US, I don't need to mention it) but the slowness of the "channel" caused me to spend a couple of bucks and watch quality Cricket.
 

silentstriker

The Wheel is Forever
nightprowler10 said:
Call me stupid, but if the companies showing the games in the US don't make any money from it, eventually we won't have any cricket, PPV or not, being shown in the US.
If being shown on PPV means paying exorbitant prices that they ask, then good riddance I say.
 

haroon510

International 12th Man
nightprowler10 said:
Yeah both teams have been without some of their better players, and in the end, unfortunately, it has been a battle between who dropped the least catches and gave up less extras. I think WI pretty much threw the last game away by way of extras and horrible fielding, Pakistan did the same today (though Razzaq's captaincy probably did more harm). In my opinion the first ODI was the only match that could be considered a genuine battle.

BTW, who do you think doesn't belong in ODI cricket as far as today's line up? Just about everybody has done pretty decent in ODIs, even Sami, with the obvious exception of Faisal Iqbal.

Also, does anybody know why Rehman wasn't included in this ODI? He did better than Afridi, with both the bat and the ball.

iftekhar anjum, and hafeez shouldn't have played this much instead it was better for pakistan to put samiullah naizi and another spacialist batsman. i don't knw what has iftekhar anjum done that he gets alot of chances. his bowling record sucks and he has given more chancess to prove himself but he has faild. it is time for pakistani selectors to drop him and bring some one else. afridi, sami should be droped for the next match with anjum.
 

The Baconator

International Vice-Captain
Can't really be surprised with that result given who Pakistan were missing. Good win for WI, and great for Samuels to get a hundred.
 

shortpitched713

International Captain
Does anyone else have any clue as to why Gul was dropped in favor of Sami. Is Gul injured or something? :-O

Anyway, pretty pathetic performance from Pakistan. Only bright spot was Hameed's batting. Have pushed for his inclusion for a while now and its good to see him deliver. Both of our openers should be dropped from ODIs.
 

honestbharani

Whatever it takes!!!
silentstriker said:
I tend to watch pretty much every international match played, unless it conflicts with another international match.

Yea, I'm crazy.
I was like that till I was in college. Then got into a job and now it is a great feat for me to have watched a whole match that is not on weekends. :(
 

nightprowler10

Global Moderator
Mr Mxyzptlk said:
Mohammad Sami averages 42.75 with an economy rate of 5.07 over the last 2 years and his last 25 ODIs.
That's quite surprising actually. His average has definitely risen quite a bit since the last couple of years. I think he used to be around 23 back then, didn't realize he had gotten so bad in ODIs.
 

Jono

Virat Kohli (c)
pasag said:
Yeah classiest six there. Good win from the Windies (Ha).
I watch it when its on, and have been putting a bit of cash on the matches but to be fair, its up against three test series, one which is the Ashes and another which involves India. Naturally this will have less interest seeing its just another random ODI series.

Hope WI can square the series in the last ODI though. But that 4th ODI had two depleted teams, there was some good cricket but you could tell it wasn't world class cricket.

Samuels was awesome though.
 

no1_gangsta_786

U19 Cricketer
Does anyone else have any clue as to why Gul was dropped in favor of Sami. Is Gul injured or something?
I think with the series at 2-0 then, Gul was dropped just to rest him and maybe because of that big blow he took to hes left shin from Gayle.
 

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