***Official*** West Indies in New Zealand

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

Sarwan out of the series!

...and Best in for Taylor.

 

[sirjeremy11]

So Vincent's still not in? Bloody ******** stuff.

Yep. Good point. Not that he set the world on fire vs CD. Think he made 5 and 13 from memory. Maybe he is under pressure, or disillusioned.

 

[Tim]

The bad news is that he's gone back to a team that must have pretty low morale right now. Playing in such a hopeless team won't be helping him much.

 

[sirjeremy11]

I feel pretty sorry for Lou. Wonder if he thinks he and Mason should be in the team?

Starting to lean towards Flem at three, Styris four, Astle five, and Vincent six. Open with How and Fulton.

And Mason in for Martin. Maybe they will use him in Napier as it is his home ground, and he really messed up in his only test so far - at the Basin...

 

[brettishere]

I feel pretty sorry for Lou. Wonder if he thinks he and Mason should be in the team?

Starting to lean towards Flem at three, Styris four, Astle five, and Vincent six. Open with How and Fulton.

And Mason in for Martin. Maybe they will use him in Napier as it is his home ground, and he really messed up in his only test so far - at the Basin...

Agree totally, Martin has to be dropped, but it seem Braces has gone for Mills, I still dont think Franklin is up to Test standard, hopefully Oram can come right.

 

[sirjeremy11]

Agree totally, Martin has to be dropped, but it seem Braces has gone for Mills, I still dont think Franklin is up to Test standard, hopefully Oram can come right.

I don't think Oram's test bowling will ever come right enough to be up to it again. May for ODI's but I think the guy should concentrate more his batting now.

Martin is a joke.

 

[sirjeremy11]

Word is that the selectors were waiting on the close of play in the CD Auck game to see how Oram came through before they named the team. Weird. He has hardly played cricket for the last 6 months. Poor bugger. Huge talent, keeps breaking, which is why I think he should just try to concentrate on his batting.

 

[Smudge]

Considering Oram was restricted to four overs a session, surely they couldn't have been contemplating him as an option.

 

[sirjeremy11]

Maybe they still asked him if he wanted to play. Seriously. Or maybe he is an extra selector and he was watching Vincent.

"Yeah John, he was pretty crud. Just keep the same team"

"Whatever you say, Jake. Hey you wanna play? Jake? What's so funny? Jake?"

 

[sirjeremy11]

Scary stat - Bond has 21st most test wickets by a New Zealander (63in 13 tests!), and only 10 have over 100.

Just shows you how badly our bowling attack has been depleted by injuries over the years.
And also how many average bowlers we have had.

 

[NZTailender]

^ Yeah. And Martin has 85 wickets. Where did they come from?

 

[Blaze]

Considering Oram was restricted to four overs a session, surely they couldn't have been contemplating him as an option.

Probably more good overs than we will get from either Franklin or Martin

 

[sirjeremy11]

Probably more good overs than we will get from either Franklin or Martin

Put together?

 

[Ming]

Word is that the selectors were waiting on the close of play in the CD Auck game to see how Oram came through before they named the team. Weird.

Nope.

They were waiting on the fitness of Bond, Franklin and Martin.

 

[DanielFullard]

Is there anyway of seeing this here in the UK?

 

[Smudge]

So that's what the mid-pitch conversation was about.

Cricket: Styris puts Windies on block

16.03.06
By Richard Boock


Scott Styris has lashed out at the West Indies' apparent disregard for injured players, saying their attitude flew in the face of common sense, never mind the spirit of the game.

Highlighting New Zealand's annoyance over several first-test incidents, Styris said yesterday it was time the tourists showed more consideration for players who had been struck in the head and reacted more quickly to the danger signs.

Styris, Nathan Astle, Brendon McCullum, Ramnaresh Sarwan and fieldsman Jamie How all received heavy jolts to the head during the opening test, and Astle was later confined to quarters after feeling nauseous and unwell.

The main thrust of Styris' concern was that the West Indies showed no interest in the welfare of himself or How after two sickening blows at Auckland, and that they seemed to delight in the spectacle of a felled batsman.

Styris was sconed by a Fidel Edwards bouncer in the second innings, mouthed off at the bowler after the next delivery, and threw away his wicket two overs later.

"There was a little bit of disappointment about the way they were laughing and joking after our guys were struck, which was what I mentioned to Fidel after I was hit," said Styris. "It's just a matter of checking out that you're fine and that you're okay.

"You want to play the game hard and you want to play it fair, but you also want to make sure that someone's not hurt - or at least that's the way we want to play it.

"We made sure Sarwan was okay after he got hit, but were pretty disappointed and grumpy about [batsmen Shiv] Chanderpaul and [Daren] Ganga after Jamie was struck. They eventually showed some concern, but we thought it was a little too late."

The issue of assisting hurt batsmen was raised during the Ashes series last year, when Justin Langer expressed his anger over the lack of concern shown by England after Ricky Ponting was struck by Steve Harmison.

However, Styris said there was no need for an international understanding on the subject because no one in their right mind would want it any other way.

"If you have any sense of empathy and consideration, you don't want to see anyone badly hurt," he said. "You want to try and get him out, you want to intimidate him so that you can get him out, but you don't want to see him carried off on a stretcher.

"Or at least we certainly don't, and I know Bondy [Shane Bond] doesn't - he's mentioned it before. If he does hit a guy, he's always looking to see if he's okay.

"If other teams are doing that, well and good, but I think it's more to do with common sense than an international understanding."

Styris, who propped up New Zealand's first innings at Auckland with 103, said New Zealand's aim in the second test starting tomorrow was to turn in a much-improved all-round game, and to address some of the more glaring issues.

"We were guilty of being a bit loose in that last test and eventually Ganga and Chris Gayle showed us how it was done," he said. "If we can bring a bit more patience to our game and not be in so much of a hurry, we can bat a lot longer than we did at Auckland.

"We want to basically put our foot on their throat and not take it off. At times we were guilty of letting them back in the game."

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/story.cfm?c_id=4&ObjectID=10372844

 

[sirjeremy11]

I'd love to see what the language filter would do to the actual conversation...

Did anyone hear the conversation after How was in the face (fielding) and Chanderpaul went up to see if he was OK, and they all told him to **** off? I heard it was intense, and I missed it

 

[Loony BoB]

Doesn't look like either of the sides are playing to make friends, that's for sure.

 

[sirjeremy11]

Yeah, it hasn't exactly been the Friendship series has it.

So now, the Windies, the Aussies, South Africa, and India hate coming here. And Zimbabwe aren't allowed to until the dictatorship finishes.

No wonder we play so many two test series!

At least Sri Lanka seem to come here a lot at the moment!

 

[Loony BoB]

Australia it's because of the crowds - going by reports the teams themselves actually get along quite well... it's just the crowds the Aussies don't like, and I don't blame them. South Africa, well, we all know about the Fleming vs. Smith debacle... what's with India not liking coming here, though? Didn't know about that one.