***Official*** West Indies in New Zealand

[Smudge]

Sorry, I think it was Edwards who was the final wicket, rather than Taylor. It looks like the Cricinfo guy slept in and turned up late - half the ball-by-ball info is wrong, by all accounts.

http://livescoring.blackcaps.co.nz/international/match006/summary

 

[Blakey]

Thankyou berry berry much

 

[Blakey]

Yes well this is what cricinfo says: 102.3 Bond to Taylor, OUT: Kiwis have done it! short of length just outside off stump, nipping in, batsman tries to late cut it and gets a big inside edge onto the stumps.

This is what cricbuzz says: Bond to Taylor, out Bowled!! swing in on good length, right through Taylor's defense, clean bowled! J Taylor b S Bond 4(21) 4s-0 6s-0

Which one is more accurate?

 

[Loony BoB]

cricbuzz also says Taylor.

 

[ohtani's jacket]

I watched it on Sky Sports. It was Taylor.

EDIT: The ball-by-ball coverage on Cricinfo is completely wrong.

 

[Loony BoB]

Regarding Mr. Bond...

Bond is currently on track to reach 100 test wickets on his 21st test (if he continuees at his current wickets-per-test average, 4.8), and if he reaches the landmark a bit faster, he could be the first to make 100 wickets in 20 tests since Waqar Younis. If he finds some extra form, he could even go as far as to do it in 19 tests - first since Ian Botham.

If he takes 13 wickets in his next eight ODIs - something he's much more likely to achieve - he'll beat Saqlain Mushtaq's record for fastest to 100 ODI wickets (Bond currently has 87 from 45, Mushtaq took his 100th & 101st ODI wickets in his 53rd game).

Just more records to add to Bond's collection, which at the moment include best all-time ODI average and best all-time ODI strike rate and NZ's all-time BBI. I don't see him doing too well in the all-time wicket takers list though, due to his injury-prone nature and the fact that he's already 30. He'll possibly make the top 50, but I don't know how far he'll go beyond there.

 

[Dick Rockett]

God damn cricinfo - you're useless.

Better to get the updates from here!

Absolutely. Cricinfo don't seem to care about the game here in NZ. Throughout this test the updates have been slow or just plain wrong. The links don't point to the new-look scorecards. If you manually enter the right URL, it's out of date anyway.

Even the Bangladesh - Sri Lanka test got better coverage.

 

[Smudge]

Absolutely. Cricinfo don't seem to care about the game here in NZ. Throughout this test the updates have been slow or just plain wrong. The links don't point to the new-look scorecards. If you manually enter the right URL, it's out of date anyway.

Even the Bangladesh - Sri Lanka test got better coverage.

I think they've dropped their lip ever since NZ Cricket set up its own live scoring and stats.

 

[steds]

Absolutely. Cricinfo don't seem to care about the game here in NZ.

It's not just this test you know. No bias on cricinfo's part. Just shitness

 

[superkingdave]

yep, Cricinfo is getting pretty poor these days

 

[Dick Rockett]

I think they've dropped their lip ever since NZ Cricket set up its own live scoring and stats.

They did that because Cricinfo stopped covering NZ's domestic games. We're just a pimple on the bum of the world to them.

Edit: An hour has passed, an still I can't get an updated scorecard or commentary from Cricinfo, even though they've updated their main page to report the result. Even then it's only the 3rd headline.

 

[Loony BoB]

You might want to hold Ctrl and press F5 then, because Cricinfo have updated okay for me.

West Indies 2nd innings (target: 291 runs)                      R   M   B  4 6
CH Gayle              c Fleming          b Astle               82     141 12 2
D Ganga               c How              b Astle               95     231 16 0
RR Sarwan             c Styris           b Bond                 4      18  0 0
BC Lara                                  b Bond                 0       1  0 0
*S Chanderpaul        c Fulton           b Vettori             15      30  2 0
DJJ Bravo             lbw                b Bond                17      53  2 0
DR Smith              c Fleming          b Bond                 0       7  0 0
+D Ramdin             c Franklin         b Vettori             15      52  1 0
IDR Bradshaw          c Fleming          b Vettori             10      55  0 0
JE Taylor                                b Bond                13      24  1 0
FH Edwards            not out                                   2       8  0 0
Extras                (b 1, lb 3, w 1, nb 5)                   10
Total                 (all out, 102.3 overs)                  263

FoW: 1-148 (Gayle, 49.2 ov), 2-157 (Lara, 52.6 ov),
     3-182 (Chanderpaul, 63.4 ov), 4-211 (Ganga, 75.2 ov),
     5-216 (Smith, 76.5 ov), 6-218 (Sarwan, 78.1 ov),
     7-221 (Bravo, 80.6 ov), 8-246 (Ramdin, 93.4 ov),
     9-251 (Bradshaw, 95.2 ov), 10-263 (Taylor, 102.3 ov).

Bowling                      O      M      R      W
Bond                        27.3    7     69      5
Franklin                    14      1     46      0 (3nb)
Martin                      16      5     39      0 (2nb, 1w)
Vettori                     35     11     92      3
Astle                       10      4     13      2

 

[Dick Rockett]

You might want to hold Ctrl and press F5 then, because Cricinfo have updated okay for me.

Thanks for that, but I had tried that and gotten nowhere. Luckily the NZ Cricket website has been accurate. I wouldn't bother with Cricinfo, but I like their bulletins and commentary.

As it is though, one shouldn't have to refresh the page, it should just work.

 

[marc71178]

Edit: An hour has passed, an still I can't get an updated scorecard or commentary from Cricinfo, even though they've updated their main page to report the result. Even then it's only the 3rd headline.

Do you really expect it to be above that ODI or for that matter any India game?

 

[Dick Rockett]

Do you really expect it to be above that ODI or for that matter any India game?

Given that it's the most recent result, yes. I mean, I know in your eyes we don't matter, but hey.

 

[sirjeremy11]

Think Marc was referring to the fact that Cricinfo would rate Indian games and THAT ODI above the NZ WI game (which turned out to be quite a game in it's own right). I would speculate that Cricinfo get a huge amount of traffic from India.

And not that NZ were a pimple on anyone's bum.

 

[Loony BoB]

Cricinfo concentrate on the series which generate the most traffic for their website, and quite rightly too. It's sensible site management. They don't completely disregard the other countries though, so they're still one of the top cricket sources online.

 

[Jono]

Is this for real?

http://foxsports.news.com.au/story/0,8659,18444762-23212,00.html

With West Indies set a second innings target of 291, Gayle and Daren Ganga opened in spectacular fashion with a 148-run stand.

But when Gayle smashed spinner Daniel Vettori into the stand for six, and the ball was lost, West Indies was on the way to losing the Test.

The replacement ball provided the reverse swing which the New Zealand bowlers had been unable to produce and, from having all wickets intact and needing 143 to win, West Indies was all out 115 runs later.

"The turning point was Chris whacking the ball up on the roof and we got a new ball and it reversed a few overs later and we exploited it well, we never gave up and we got the result," said Bond.

The replacement ball allowed Bond to run through the West Indies middle order with four quick wickets, including the first ball dismissal of Brian Lara, while Nathan Astle also moved the ball enough to take the key scalps of Gayle (82) and Ganga (95).

 

[Loony BoB]

Interesting. Legal, but still interesting.

Just a (genuine) question for those bowlers out there: How much does swing have to do with the ball, and how much does it have to do with the conditions? Also, how much could a ball of similar age to the lost ball differ from the lost ball when it comes to such things?

 

[sirjeremy11]

Replacement ball story is true. Apparently the umpires thought it wasn't scuffed up enough and were banging it into the ground! WI must have been stoked.