If you read back through this thread you will see that Astle has been perfrorming rather well as a bowler in recent times. And yes, we do need one more great batsmen and one more great bowler. But doesn't every team?Autobahn said:I can see there's plenty of kiwis foaming at the mouth, closing ranks at the moment
1) Face it NZ need a big scoring top order batsmen who shouldn't be selected on any potential bowling prospect or made to turn his arm over.
2) I probably shouldn't have labelled the NZ batsmen as average batsmen who bowl military medium (although i don't get why at 34 Astle is still forced to turn his arm over in tests when they already have four bowlers in the team, when he's far more use as a batsmen) and i'm sorry if i got it wrong.
3) They do need a specialist strike bowler either someone who's very accurate (e.g. Pollock) or another pace bowler to at least give fleming some options.
Just remembered in the good old days when Larsen, Harris, and Latham were called Dibbly, Dobbly, and Wobbly.Voltman said:Barry Cooper was pretty handy with the bat...
Wasn't watson wibbly?sirjeremy11 said:Just remembered in the good old days when Larsen, Harris, and Latham were called Dibbly, Dobbly, and Wobbly.
Yeah but i can't see (especially when you consider his position in the order) why he shouldn't concentrate on his batting more.sirjeremy11 said:If you read back through this thread you will see that Astle has been perfrorming rather well as a bowler in recent times. And yes, we do need one more great batsmen and one more great bowler. But doesn't every team?
I don't see how 10-12 overs an innings would negatively affect his batting TBH...Autobahn said:Yeah but i can't see (especially when you consider his position in the order) why he shouldn't concentrate on his batting more.
He doesn't bowl and bat at the same time. I think he's a better player with the bat when he's having the occasional bowl as well - and having success.Autobahn said:Yeah but i can't see (especially when you consider his position in the order) why he shouldn't concentrate on his batting more.
I didn't realise disagreeing with you was the same as "foaming at the mouth".Autobahn said:I can see there's plenty of kiwis foaming at the mouth
Umm, Jamie How, Hamish Marshall, Stephen Fleming, Peter Fulton, etc, etc.Autobahn said:NZ need a top order batsmen who shouldn't be selected on any potential bowling prospect or made to turn his arm over.
This is a really poor assertion to make considering how well he's been bowling. He dismissed Brian Lara twice in the recent series. Also, how does having him bowl affect his batting?Autobahn said:I probably shouldn't have labelled the NZ batsmen as average batsmen who bowl military medium (although i don't get why at 34 Astle is still forced to turn his arm over in tests when they already have four bowlers in the team, when he's far more use as a batsmen)
Two words. Shane Bond.Autobahn said:They do need a specialist strike bowler either someone who's very accurate (e.g. Pollock) or another pace bowler to at least give fleming some options.
Ding ding ding!!! That's correct!!!!!!!!!Voltman said:He doesn't bowl and bat at the same time. I think he's a better player with the bat when he's having the occasional bowl as well - and having success.
Why single Astle out when he's one of the two heaviest scorers in the team?Autobahn said:Yeah but i can't see (especially when you consider his position in the order) why he shouldn't concentrate on his batting more.
Rod Latham was also very heavy. You know, for his height.mundaneyogi said:Why single Astle out when he's one of the two heaviest scorers in the team?
Man, you're on fire with the funnies today!sirjeremy11 said:Rod Latham was also very heavy. You know, for his height.
Possibly the fattest fullback in NZ rugby in the 1980s. Yet, he was good enough to enter the Canterbury line from the back during their 1982-85 Shield era when "Give it a boot, Robbie" Deans was away.sirjeremy11 said:Rod Latham was also very heavy. You know, for his height.
It's not aggression, mate. Just disagreeing with you.Autobahn said:It was just a comment saying NZ already had enough bowlers and batsmen who bowled, and that they should be looking for specialist batsmen from now on and just an observation that NZ has produced a fair few batting allrounders.
Where's all this agression coming from?