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***Official*** West Indies in New Zealand 2013/14
- Thread starter Prince EWS
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Kippax
Cricketer Of The Year
"There's stories about late-night antics with Jesse so where there's smoke there's fire, so I don't think he's ready to come into that test line-up yet" - Doull
Prince EWS
Global Moderator
I really don't agree with McCullum batting five in ODIs; he should either be in the top three or used as a finisher. It's obviously different if he just gets promoted after a good start, but I think you need more of a manoeuvrer of the ball in the #5 role originally. I'd leave Ronchi out for Watling and go:
1. Martin Guptill
2. Jesse Ryder
3. Kane Williamson
4. Ross Taylor
5. BJ Watling+
6. Brendon McCullum
7. Corey Anderson
8. Nathan McCullum
9. Kyle Mills
10. Tim Southee
11. Mitchell McClenaghan
12. Luke Ronchi
13. Jimmy Neesham
14. Adam Milne
15. Tom Latham
I think Mike's team is pretty much what they'll go for, but there are too many hitters IMO.
1. Martin Guptill
2. Jesse Ryder
3. Kane Williamson
4. Ross Taylor
5. BJ Watling+
6. Brendon McCullum
7. Corey Anderson
8. Nathan McCullum
9. Kyle Mills
10. Tim Southee
11. Mitchell McClenaghan
12. Luke Ronchi
13. Jimmy Neesham
14. Adam Milne
15. Tom Latham
I think Mike's team is pretty much what they'll go for, but there are too many hitters IMO.
ohnoitsyou
International Regular
Ronchi is actually perfect at 7, assuming the top 6 hold up. Watling would have to come in at 5, meaning McCullum would be relegated to a finisher most of the time, and he is too good for that.
Edit: beaten by pews. Williamson and Taylor are the manoeuvrers of the side and McCullum is very good at rotating the strike and pinching singles
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Watling is not a finisher and there is no space in the top 4 for him imo
EDIT: I think on NZ 300+ pitches, to win you need someone in your top 4 to bat big and long and have the remainder of the side swing around him in overs 30+.
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ohnoitsyou
International Regular
Five means he can spend more time in the middle, and play a proper innings before going into finishing mode. If he falls before that there is still Anderson and Ronchi who are adept at slogging.
Kippax
Cricketer Of The Year
Mike didn't even have Munners itbt. Despite it in actual fact being a 13, I'd suggest Munners will be there. Forecast to boom it on a NZ ground with the new fielding requirements, both stances.
ohnoitsyou
International Regular
lets just wait and see how he goes this series then.
hendrix
Hall of Fame Member
Nah his mindset has completely changed now.
Unless he comes to the crease with Ryder or Guptill already murdering, he's going to want to "express himself". I used to love it when he played the support act (e.g. with Oram) because he was so good at it.
Wouldn't surprise me if they rest Anderson for first couple given his shin issue
ohnoitsyou
International Regular
Relying on Kane and Ryder for 10 overs might end badly
Hurricane
Hall of Fame Member
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Pitch and conditions
Five of New Zealand's likely team play their domestic cricket for Northern Districts, so will know what to expect. BJ Watling, one of those, said a couple of types of surfaces have been tried this year; a drier pitch which proved pretty flat and one with more grass where the opposition were bowled out for less than 100. Perhaps something in the middle for the Test? The forecast is for most of the Test is warm and sunny.
Bowl first then if it is somewhere in between those two examples.
Pitch and conditions
Five of New Zealand's likely team play their domestic cricket for Northern Districts, so will know what to expect. BJ Watling, one of those, said a couple of types of surfaces have been tried this year; a drier pitch which proved pretty flat and one with more grass where the opposition were bowled out for less than 100. Perhaps something in the middle for the Test? The forecast is for most of the Test is warm and sunny.
Bowl first then if it is somewhere in between those two examples.