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**Official** West Indies in England 2012

BoyBrumby

Englishman
I dunno. We seem to struggle against "mystery" spinners; if Sammy has the testicular fortiude to surround the bat I wouldn't bet against Narine causing a few problems.
 

Viscount Tom

International Debutant
We struggle against mystery spinner's abroad. In England we tend not to.

Personally I think Narine's been talked up too much, if he reads the press or at least the public's comments then he might end up suffering a fair bit of confidence and form if it goes **** up for him.
 

grecian

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
I know nothing about the lad, but has he played outside of the s-c or West Indies, gonna be a cold culture shock for him if not.
 

flibbertyjibber

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Basically every spinner since the Indian series last year.

*cue England's record against spin since.*
To be fair he has a point though, going to be cold and damp this week. Tough conditions for a test debut for a young lad with little experience in a foreign country.

I am openminded to be honest, never seen him bowl as I don't watch much 20/20 and every time I have seen a WI one dayer of late they have been batting.
 

Manee

Cricketer Of The Year
I'm going to enjoy watching the ODI series, think it will be gripping cricket. The next Test should be good, but I will watch it tinged with the guilt that I should be revising for Saturday's exam.
 

Manee

Cricketer Of The Year
I dunno. We seem to struggle against "mystery" spinners; if Sammy has the testicular fortiude to surround the bat I wouldn't bet against Narine causing a few problems.
Interesting, always thought testicular fortitude was a wrestling term. Anyway, I think it is a shame that Narine was not given the traditional tour from the start and was haphazardly called up midway. Shillingford is clearly not a Test level spinner, as far as I'm concerned and Narine may just be a great spinner.

Can any West Indian fans fill me in on why Miller and Austin have recieved three Tests between them? Austin has a tremendous First Class record and Miller's is even better. Their records are far better than Shillingford or Benn - so why were the latter two given the shot. Also, how is all-rounder, Bernard doing? I liked the look of his bowling when I saw him play international cricket.
 

Manee

Cricketer Of The Year
I know nothing about the lad, but has he played outside of the s-c or West Indies, gonna be a cold culture shock for him if not.
Mendis relied on a tiny amount of spin which turned to nothing when he left the sc whereas Narine's big spin may be reduced to merely a fair amount of spin. I think he'll be good. Probability sides with that he won't, but I'm taking a punt and think he'll give England a surprise.
 

Furball

Evil Scotsman
Had a dream that Brian Lara came out of retirement and beat his First Class record score of 501*.

All Botham could do in commentary after he beat his own Test record was moan about Anderson not playing.
 

vic_orthdox

Global Moderator
Interesting, always thought testicular fortitude was a wrestling term. Anyway, I think it is a shame that Narine was not given the traditional tour from the start and was haphazardly called up midway. Shillingford is clearly not a Test level spinner, as far as I'm concerned and Narine may just be a great spinner.

Can any West Indian fans fill me in on why Miller and Austin have recieved three Tests between them? Austin has a tremendous First Class record and Miller's is even better. Their records are far better than Shillingford or Benn - so why were the latter two given the shot. Also, how is all-rounder, Bernard doing? I liked the look of his bowling when I saw him play international cricket.
Think you're quick to dismiss Shillingford, the guy bowled pretty well against Australian on what were favourable wickets, and had one Test in England on a surface that in Tests hasn't been very responsive for spin. He's not the worst.

Having seen Miller in ODI cricket, just don't see how he'll ever be effective in international cricket.
 

Furball

Evil Scotsman
I thought the consensus about Miller was that his record was a product of bowling at crap batsmen on crap pitches? Can't remember if I've ever seen him, which indicates how memorable his performances were if I have.
 

Manee

Cricketer Of The Year
I thought the consensus about Miller was that his record was a product of bowling at crap batsmen on crap pitches? Can't remember if I've ever seen him, which indicates how memorable his performances were if I have.
Surely 1 Test isn't enough time to judge someone with 217 FC wickets at 16.83 with an economy of 1.90! He's clearly very accurate. His lack of penetration in ODI cricket should be no proof of a similar lack in Test cricket, due to the difference in fields and mentality.
 

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