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*Official* VB Series - Australia, India & Zimbabwe

godofcricket

State 12th Man
harry674 said:
something good coming out this match.

indian tail can finally bat...agrkar,pathan,kartik,nehra(balaji can bat a bit too) WOW

when was last time this happened
I thought it happend in the first match of the best three finals, in which they were able to get some respected total because of their tail-enders otherwise they could have bowled them out around the 100 mark.
Anyway sad end to indias tournament. Australia showed India again that they are far superior, winning a match after quite a number of games aganist them doesn't mean they are close to the champions. Lets hope india can bring some good in the Pak tour.
 

Linda

International Vice-Captain
Arjun said:
How on earth can anyone excuse defeat after defeat after defeat?
I was never excusing "defeat after defeat", it's just that you call for the players heads when they don't win against the best side in the world! You go on about dropping them all, but do you expect a heap of new players to do any better?

So what, the finals ended up being what we all predicted at the start of the summer, a freaking whitewash, at least be happy the Indians gave some competition. Better luck next time:lol:
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
furious_ged said:
Stop complaining about the supposed Hayden nick. Snicko says it wasn't out, and Koertzen did a fantastic job.
Don't expect the facts to ruin a good whinge though!
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
Kenny said:
No way will India get those runs. No way in hell.

BTW, I see 'sperm' is somehow categorised a swear word here? Amazing.
No, it's not - just someone wanted to put an * in for some reason.

If it's banned, the whole word is *s.
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
Sanz said:
I say - Drop Tendulkar,Sehwag,Pathan,Balaji,Nehra, Ganguly, Make Dravid Captain, VVS Vice Captain and build a team for future. :P
I say don't over-react to a defeat by a dominant side (which in OD's Australia still look to be)
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
Sanz said:
Another Final, Another choke. Most hyped batsman on the earth. Who needs 13000 runs man, I need a win in the Final. CHOKERS.
So, why blame Tendulkar for this then?

Pathan - 10-0-75-2
Balaji - 9-0-65-0
Nehra - 10-0-63-2
Kartik - 7-0-51-0

Those 4 have the job of bowling primarily, and looks to me like they didn't do their job.

But because SRT cannot manufacture a miracle chasing such a massive score, it's his fault?
 

Jono

Virat Kohli (c)
Thinking about it, the Indians didn't play good cricket ever since Brett Lee hit that six in Sydney, up till that point they looked on the same level of the Aussies, but ever since then they played poor against both Australia and Zimbabwe (bar VVS Laxman).

I agree with Linda, I like every other Indian fan was disappointed with the way India have played in the past 2 days, but this has absolutely nothing to do with their batting. No one was calling for Ganguly's head when he scored a brilliant 80+ in Melbourne, or Dravid's head when he played a great knock in Brisbane to stand by Laxman. The batting is not the problem, we need to get this out of our head. Sehwag, Tendulkar, Laxman, Ganguly, Dravid and Yuvraj. That is a good batting line up, and each player has showed it at some point on this tour, get off their backs.

The problem is quite clearly the bowlers. World Cup and today is proof enough. Pathan and Balaji are young, and will improve. Nehra simply has to go, I've seen enough and no one can use his injury at the World Cup as an excuse any more. His fielding his poor and he is simply not up to standard. I was never a big fan of Kartik, give me Kumble or Harbhajan any day, even if he does have negative body language. Zaheer will hopefully get fit, and Agarkar is valuable enough, even if he is inconsistent. If Pathan and Balaji can come of age, I think India could be dominant in the future, but with this current bowling line up we're never going to be the best in the world.

I hope the Indian fans can understand that we were beaten by a better team while we had an inferior bowling line up, much inferior. Don't be like those fans that were burning Ganguly posters after their loss to Australia in the first WC game, these players don't deserve it.

It's a pity a great tour by India came to an end in such fashion. People shouldn't forget the effort they put in the test series and first half of the VB Series. My hats off go to India, even after today's performance. We just can't expect to win with our bowlers, simple as that.
 
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marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
Sanz said:
Here is a list of all the finals (QF,SF, F) since 2000, please check yourself and determine Sachin Tendulkar's performance.
I prefer to look at a player's career when it's been that long:

Career ODI average: 44.86
Average in all finals: 45.85
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
Sanz said:
What will I do with 20000 runs if we are not able to win a single Finals
So if India fail towin a final, it's automatically because of SRT is it?

And there was me thinking Cricket was a TEAM game with 11 players in each team?
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
harry674 said:
where were the replays when hayden was out 3 times today.
On at least one of these 3, the replays show that he wasn't out.

Another has been said to be close, but nowhere near certain.
 

shankar

International Debutant
Congratulations to Australia for a great performance...nobody doubted that they were the world champions and they proved it comprehensively today.

The Indian team: Well they've given me and the other Indian supporters a very painful and heart-breaking last week.But to judge their performance on this tour based on the last week would be unfair. Dravid,Laxman,Kumble and Sehwag,Yuveraj,Ganguly, Tendulkar have all given us an unforgettable winter (it's winter in India) of cricket. Laxman and Dravid in particular have provided a spectacular exhibition of batting. Ganguly has done splendidly with the inexperienced bowling attack and has really backed his young players to the hilt (and for that I'm prepared to overlook the tactical mistakes he made at times). It's been a great rivalry between the 2 countries (and their supporters :) ).

Looking ahead there should be a healthy fight for places once Zaheer and Bhajji return.The gap between India and Aus has reduced from what it was at the start of the tour. Indians really need to work on the little things like fielding,running bt, wickets and bowling at the death in ODI cricket and they can pose a better challenge to Aus next time around.
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
harry674 said:
indian tail can finally bat...agrkar,pathan,kartik,nehra(balaji can bat a bit too) WOW
Wait till the pressure is on - I wouldn't back that line-up to score 50 to win a game with no top order player alongside them.
 

Pratters

Cricket, Lovely Cricket
The bane of India is inconsistency. Australia is good but I refuse to accept they are so good that they can beat India the way they did today. India has been brilliant one day, pretty average/below average on another day. Thats the difference between New Zealand and India. The Kiwis play to potential, giving their best. Indians can beat virtually one on one day, can get beaten by a CW XI on another day :S
 

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