*Official* VB Series - Australia, India & Zimbabwe

[Slow Love™]

I don't think there'll be a match today. The main surprise for me was how long the rain took to hit the MCG (we got it about two hours previous, and it was a particularly violent storm). It's a pity, because the Zimbabwe bowlers had done a decent job again, and with a reasonably shortened Duckworth/Lewis total, you never know what might have happened.

It's stopped raining here now, but apparently it's still falling at the ground, and it was so heavy that I can't see how they can dry the ground sufficiently under the lights.

 

[Jono]

Lucky I chose not to go to today's game, it ended up being abandoned. Boy the weather was horrible, typical Melbourne weather, we had everything today.

I think I made the right choice, I'll sit back and watch Agassi vs. Safin in the Australian Open

 

[age_master]

It was hilarious. I can only assume he was expecting more bounce, and it did move in just a fraction. He's a good judge of his off stump, but I think the slightest movement there did him in.

quite possible, or he could have thought it was going the other way, in the replay it looked as if the stitches were facing towards the slips


whatever the reason as has been pointed out, it happens to the best....



Martyn looked alot more confident till it started raining...

 

[Gaijin-san]

There seems to be news reports going around that he received a dodgy call, and he was ****ed off etc.. As far as I saw, the call was good, and Marto was ****ed about missing out on a chance to have a break and regroup.

 

[garage flower]

User name......your posts are really annoying and biased....you manipulate stats and make fantastic claims to prove God knows what....

(1) Yes, South Africe were the better team between 96 and 99...get over it...

(2) No, the Australian bowlers didnt "tear apart" the Indian Batting in 2001....you lost the series 2-1...

(3) No, the subcontinent is not the reason why rules exist.....it also has to do with Warne, M Waugh( weather reports????who are you kidding?) , Hansie, Gibbs , Lehmann, S Waugh( 99 against Windies,....reason why bonus points had to be introduced), Chappel( underarm, anyone?), Lillee, Hair( undoubtedly why neutrl umps had to be introduced)

(4)No, rain didnt "save" the Brisbane test for India......do you even watch these matches before presenting your opinions?

(5) Australia didnt miss Warne....he would have gone for 51 runs a wicket as he has for the last 11 tests against India.Mcgrath..ok...Warne...no.

(6)Australia lost the 2001 series not with a poor attack...they missed only Lee...India didnt have Kumble, and any idiot with knowledge of matches in India knows that Kumbles absence was a greater blow to India than Lee's absence to Australa...

(7) Australia doesnt always score over india in crunch matches...tell me why Australia hasnt won the ICC knockout even once in 3 tries?notice 98 and 2000?

(8) this is regarding someone elses post........



A billion people ead the article in the Times of India...and understood it better than Eclipse did.......

Laxmans comment was " the Australian public is the most sporting"
notice he said Australian public, not Australian team...

Great post mate, saves me the trouble of responding to his gibberish.

 

[garage flower]

This is great. A prime example. Competing equally in 1-dayers? Well I won't bother to touch that because I live in reality, and as such garbage like that has no relevance. Test series, they won a 3 test series in India. Yes. On the back of Australia winning 16 straight tests. That is a record. This record was set in the first test of that series, where Australia won in 4 days, Warne (amazing ball which tore Ganguly in 2) and McGrath causing havoc. Remember those guys? So after setting that record, where is your incentive to go on? Anyway yeah you won a series against Australia, you can have that. But since you're bringing up history, who won the series before? Need I ask? And the current series, drawn yes, but saved by rain in Brisbane.

Pinning hope? Australia still tore India apart in India without their bowlers. And you show little respect for 2 bowlers you'd have to go back decades to find Indian bowlers to which you could compare.

The competition I want comes from a team who would tear Australia apart with the horrendous bowling they've been displaying. A team which doesn't have to overcome a fear of embarassment before they can actually start attempting to win a game. If Australia bowled as bad and feilded as poorly as they have recently against the 1999 SA team, what would have happened? That is the competition I mean, where Australia are pushed to perform, not just plod along and still get through with the wins.

And oh yeah the cheat comment. 2 current Indian players have been disciplined for ball tampering and Gangulys unfair manipulation of the game is common practice. Please, the sub-continent is the reason why half the rules in cricket exist.

Despite orangepitch's comprehensive rebuttal of your often incoherent ramblings, I thought I'd better respond briefly.

The point I was making was that - contrary to your befuddled opinion - India are in fact providing pretty good competition for Australia in both forms of the game. The only evidence required to support this view is the evidence of your own eyes.

You've decided to try and obscure the fact that India won their last home test series against Australia by bringing up an irrelevant - for the purposes of this argument - record set during the series.

You then prattle on about some, presumably, imaginary series where Australia "tore India apart" in India, without any bowlers. Sounds like a marvellous achievement and one I'm deeply sorry to have missed.

I could continue to dissect your "argument" point by point, but will settle for one last question: why are you referring to India as "you"? I'm not Indian or, necessarily, an Indian supporter. Please don't judge others by your own, evidently low, standards. Many people have the ability to be objective and set aside bias when arguing a point. It would be a useful skill for you to learn before continuing this discussion.

 

[Gaijin-san]

Well Bevan is gone for the series. Ponting is missing the Perth ODI. That means two replacements for the squad in that game. I suppose Katich is one (and would be Bevan's replacement), unfortunately. As for the other...?

I'd like to see Hussey or North come in for a game. I'd like to see them both in but for stupid Simon Katich that won't happen.

 

[Linda]

People, I'm officially DANCING ON THE FREAKIN MOON (just like I said I would).

I loved that Marto innings today (all except the 40th ball). People shut up giving me a hard time for once. Ahh it was nice to see the cover drive played properly by someone today, I think I may of been in withdrawl .

I think he was ticked off because of the rain, they really shouldve gotten the players in earlier.
Ah well, I think the selectors actions regarding Marto clealy state they want him around for a long while yet IMO.

As for Clarke's moment of vagueness, I thought it was hilarious. Any time that happens it really is funny, even if its someone you like (of course, if its to the opposition it takes the cake...)

 

[Pratters]

Ahh it was nice to see the cover drive played properly by someone today

I dont think today Martyn played the best inning I have seen him play. He went in with an attitude to just hit the balls when he can and 'hit his way into form' I think. Some of the shots in the cover region could so easily have been catches.

Saying that, I think it was right Martyn played this way. Nothing was working for him before this. He spent some time in the middle today. So he will feel more comfortable the next time he walks into bat. Its the kind of inning which can help him get back into form. Nothing more, nothing less.

 

[Gaijin-san]

The best way of getting back into form is the Jayasuriya method. Boy, when it works, it works.

And you'll know about it.

 

[marc71178]

Now go look up the Series wins,

A win record over 4 years of nigh-on 80% suggests they would win most series.

What was the point of posting this?

To show that SA were a better side in that period (in some years Australia had the 5th or 6th best W-L record over the year - How does that make them the best side?!

Or were are just trolling to try and prove people wrong by looking up statistics?

Never been called a Troll before - wonder why that might be?

Now are you stupid enough to continue the argument?

Ah, the good old, finish your argument with an insult, never fails!

 

[marc71178]

So after setting that record, where is your incentive to go on?

Does this really require answering?

If there was no incentive to go on, why didn't the whole team retire en masse?

As an excuse for a defeat, it ranks as one of the all-time worst!

 

[marc71178]

Ok now you're making things up.

Yet you reckon a side with a 61-44 record was a better side than one with a 77-21 record...

These 3 meetings were the reason Australia were considered the best at that time (it was a general consensus), and deservedly so. Now that was true competition.

Yeah, they were so clearly the best side in 1997 weren't they!

Played 19, won 7 (a record bettered by SA, SL, Eng, Zim, WI AND Pak)

If they were the best side, then how did England beat them 3-0 and WI 2-0?

 

[marc71178]

1997 (snip)

In 1997 SA won 5 of 9 games vs Aus - why did you omit 2 of them?

 

[garage flower]

I almost feel sorry for username. Will he dare to set foot in the forum again?!

 

[Tom Halsey]

Doubt it. :P

 

[Linda]

I dont think today Martyn played the best inning I have seen him play.

I dont hear anyone saying he did. I just hope it shuts his critics up for a while.

Some of the shots in the cover region could so easily have been catches.

Yeah, if their were feildsman there.:rolleyes:

 

[Pratters]

Yeah, if their were feildsman there.:rolleyes:

He did play rash shots and sould so easily have been caught. It was the best way for Martyn to play as no other thing was working for him and I hope he gets back into form.

>> does the rolls eyes impersonification

 

[Tom Halsey]

their

Tut tut, Neil will be on to you for that one.

Should have been "there".

 

[Neil Pickup]

Tut tut, Neil will be on to you for that one.

Should have been "there".

Beat me to it

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