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**Official**VB Series 2005 Australia,Pakistan,West Indies.

garage flower

State Vice-Captain
garage flower said:
What have the West Indies "quicks" been like so far (King and Dillon in particular as I haven't seen either of them for a while)? It's difficult to glean much from the reports.
Any thoughts on King and Dillon's performances in the warm-up games? I'm assuming they'll be competing for one spot with the other 10 places to be taken by:

Gayle
W Hinds
Chanderpaul
Lara
Sarwan
Samuels
Bravo
Browne
Bradshaw
Collins (will probably bat at 11 if Dillon gets the nod)
 

Arrow

U19 Vice-Captain
The schedule has been trimmed from eight to six preliminary matches apiece
Wtf??
Why on earth have they done this? First time ever. I want to see more games not ****en less.
 

Mister Wright

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
tooextracool said:
err yes i know, obviously, no human is capable of being slower than a snail. but the fact is hes not slow, otherwise he wouldnt be one of the best runner between the wickets in the history of the game



which is why he spent so much time at mid off isnt it? 8-)
and of course there have been times when hes been fielding at point




maybe you should watch cricket more closely? personally i doubt you've watched more than 1/4th of his career.
certainly only someone who watched 1/4th of his career would call him a snail in the field, despite the fact that he was the best runner in the entire side. 8-)
i can show you many articles other than his cricinfo profile that state that hes a brilliant fielder:
http://www.thisiscricket.com/aus/michaelb/bevan.html
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/cricket/1999/world_cup/news/1999/06/19/notebook/
Don't believe everything you read.

I watched well over a quarter of his career, if not all of it. so.. :p :p
 

Mister Wright

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
age_master said:
bevan is most definatley a very poor fielder

Yeah, TEC is fighting a losing battle here. He doesn't realise that being a quick runner does not equal brilliant fielding skills. I doubt Linford Christie or Carl Lewis would have been brilliant in the field.
 

tooextracool

International Coach
Mister Wright said:
Don't believe everything you read.

I watched well over a quarter of his career, if not all of it. so.. :p :p
if im not supposed to believe everything i read,then how the hell can i believe you?
and really no matter what you say, ive watched every bit of bevan's career and im certain that he was a very good fielder. whether or not 2 people on here whos opinions dont count anywhere near as much as those who write those articles, i couldnt care less.
and if you had watched so much of bevans career, then why in the hell would you make such an uneducated comment such as 'he was slower than a snail' when bevan has always been known for his quick running between the wickets.
 

Mister Wright

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
tooextracool said:
if im not supposed to believe everything i read,then how the hell can i believe you?
and really no matter what you say, ive watched every bit of bevan's career and im certain that he was a very good fielder. whether or not 2 people on here whos opinions dont count anywhere near as much as those who write those articles, i couldnt care less.
and if you had watched so much of bevans career, then why in the hell would you make such an uneducated comment such as 'he was slower than a snail' when bevan has always been known for his quick running between the wickets.
The snail remark was a comment for his speed towards the end of his career, if I didn't say that - I meant to.

Btw, it has been more than two people on this forum who have said he was a shocking fielder. And I would take the comments of people on forums, long before I do journalists, most of them are just doing their job and have no interest in cricket at all.

Btw, fielding involves more than just being a quick runner FYI.
 

tooextracool

International Coach
Mister Wright said:
Yeah, TEC is fighting a losing battle here. He doesn't realise that being a quick runner does not equal brilliant fielding skills. I doubt Linford Christie or Carl Lewis would have been brilliant in the field.
while quick running does not make you a brilliant fielder, if you can stop balls that not many other people can stop and save several boundaries, its really quite obvious that you are quite a decent fielder(certainly not poor). and considering he had while not the safest pair, not poor and he has pulled off a few blinders. not only that but bevan also had a relatively good arm, more reasons as to why he was made to field at the boundary.
 

tooextracool

International Coach
Mister Wright said:
The snail remark was a comment for his speed towards the end of his career, if I didn't say that - I meant to..
which is really pointless to the overall direction of the argument. ive never said that he was anything more than an average fielder towards the end of his career. but even then he wasnt slower than most other fielders,but because his arm had gotten visibly worse, his lower speed made him look really bad.

Mister Wright said:
Btw, it has been more than two people on this forum who have said he was a shocking fielder. And I would take the comments of people on forums, long before I do journalists, most of them are just doing their job and have no interest in cricket at all.
most journalists actually know a lot about cricket, certainly i cant say anything about the other 2 people who've backed up your claims, because its quite possibly that just like you they havent watched most of bevans career.

Mister Wright said:
Btw, fielding involves more than just being a quick runner FYI.
ive explained that in my previous post.
 

bryce

International Regular
garage flower said:
Any thoughts on King and Dillon's performances in the warm-up games? I'm assuming they'll be competing for one spot with the other 10 places to be taken by:

Gayle
W Hinds
Chanderpaul
Lara
Sarwan
Samuels
Bravo
Browne
Bradshaw
Collins (will probably bat at 11 if Dillon gets the nod)
i don't think collins will be guaranteed a starting spot, the way i see it is that king, dillion and collins are fighting for two places - and you could flip a coin to see what two will play
 

Mr Mxyzptlk

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bryce said:
i don't think collins will be guaranteed a starting spot, the way i see it is that king, dillion and collins are fighting for two places - and you could flip a coin to see what two will play
IMO Collins has to be there. He's our best allround bowler.
 

Choora

State Regular
Linda said:
So their coach and captain have more of a say than their selection committee??
I don't see it that way but i believe the selectors did the right thing by listening to the coach and captain. There is no point in selecting a player in whome the captain and coach have no faith.Both Bob and Inzi are still not convinced that Danish can be an effective oneday bowler, had he been selected for the VB series, he wouldn't have got many chances to play in the matches.
 

Mr Casson

Cricketer Of The Year
Choora said:
I don't see it that way but i believe the selectors did the right thing by listening to the coach and captain. There is no point in selecting a player in whome the captain and coach have no faith.Both Bob and Inzi are still not convinced that Danish can be an effective oneday bowler, had he been selected for the VB series, he wouldn't have got many chances to play in the matches.
When on tour, there tends to be only one selector who makes the trip, and of the players selected in the squad, the captain, coach and on-tour selector make the decisions most of the time.

There's no doubt that the final decision rests with the selectors, but they usually trust the captain and coach enough to make the right choices.
 
This Pak allrounder Mohd Hafeez is very talented, i was impressed when i saw him the first time. I wonder why Pak kept him out for so long ? I think this guy should be preffered over S Malik.
 

Choora

State Regular
parttimer said:
They were crazy to leave The Danish out.
Yes they were. There were only two Pak bowlers who impressed in the Australian tour, one is Akhter and the other one was Danish. Akhter is injured and i don't think there shoulld be any doubt that he won't be able to play all the matches in the VB series, as such the need was greater to retain a wicket taking attacking bowler like Kaneria.Unfortunately for Pakistan, Inzi and Bob can't see that.

I think the Inzi-Bob combo of captain/coach is probably the worst in the world.One looks totally clueless on the field and the other just criticizes his players in open thereby opening a pandora box.
 

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