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***Official***THE FINAL- India vs Australia - November 19th - Narendra Modi Stadium, Ahmedabad (D/N)

TheJediBrah

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Because he is right tbh .
It may sound like excuse, but pitch became better for batting under night.
However we should scorecard atleast 300. No excuse on posting below par total.
New ball under lights was going around corners. Conversely could say India were lucky they got that period to nab the 3 wickets they did

Still would agree that overall batting second the conditions were better. Can't forget that Rohit would have batted first anyway so toss isn't really an excuse
 

Silver Silva

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Because he is right tbh .
It may sound like excuse, but pitch became better for batting under night.
However we should scorecard atleast 300. No excuse on posting below par total.
Have to give the credit to Pat Cummins, at the toss everybody was saying how can you chase against such a team like India.Decision symbolises Australia at this WC, they proved everyone wrong.
 

Sunil1z

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New ball under lights was going around corners. Conversely could say India were lucky they got that period to nab the 3 wickets they did

Still would agree that overall batting second the conditions were better. Can't forget that Rohit would have batted first anyway so toss isn't really an excuse
Rohit would have definitely bowled . Go and check the Toss and his body language when Cummins won .
However the bigger culprit were SKY , Jadeja and Iyer . Can’t afford to have 3 batting failures in a knockout match.
 

Sunil1z

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Have to give the credit to Pat Cummins, at the toss everybody was saying how can you chase against such a team like India.Decision symbolises Australia at this WC, they proved everyone wrong.
Ball reverses in first innings here between 30-50 overs . They were excellent with their slower balls and cutters
 

Nintendo

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Rohit would have definitely bowled . Go and check the Toss and his body language when Cummins won .
However the bigger culprit were SKY , Jadeja and Iyer . Can’t afford to have 3 batting failures in a knockout match.
Didn't rohit say he would have batted after the toss?
 

TheJediBrah

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Rohit would have definitely bowled . Go and check the Toss and his body language when Cummins won .
However the bigger culprit were SKY , Jadeja and Iyer . Can’t afford to have 3 batting failures in a knockout match.
He literally said he would have batted anyway

And it's been repeated in all the media and analysis over and over (which I can imagine you would be avoiding, which is fair enough)
 

Himannv

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Rohit would have definitely bowled . Go and check the Toss and his body language when Cummins won .
However the bigger culprit were SKY , Jadeja and Iyer . Can’t afford to have 3 batting failures in a knockout match.
Nah, he said he'd have batted and I think he would have. He just seemed like he was completely wrongfooted by Cummins winning the toss and confidently saying he'll bowl first. It was a "hmm, have I thought this through enough" kind of moment because he probably expected them to bat first as well.
 

Silver Silva

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I don't think toss mattered that much,

India had Australia at 47/3 , from that stage you would back yourself to defend 240 ..

Problem was the Indian seamers did not have the support from the spin department, Jadeja and Kuldeep had combined figures of 0/99 in 20 overs ..

Maxwell , Head and Zampa had 2/79 in 20 overs, Jadeja and Kuldeep Yadav are supposed to be superior spinners in this match up but they did not show it. They couldn't get the ultra attacking Head or the ultra defensive Labuschagne out.
 

honestbharani

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It's simple guys. We did not have a plan B. You don't win cups when that is the case.

Sri Lanka in 96 had a bad start in the semis on a similar wicket. But they kept going coz they had batting depth with Vaas Dharmasena at 8 and 9 and even Wickramasinghe at 10 who had scored test 50s and could hit a long ball. It enabled Aravinda to keep going after the bowling and they got themselves to 250 (equivalent of 300 yest). To keep harping on other stuff is to miss the forest for the trees. Aussies this WC had a very similar team to SL 96 with depth and all-round options making up where quality was an issue. They deservingly won just like Lanka in 96.
 

trundler

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He literally said he would have batted anyway

And it's been repeated in all the media and analysis over and over (which I can imagine you would be avoiding, which is fair enough)
That doesn't change the fact that they got lucky though. I'm just moderately annoyed that a middling side fluked its way to the title owing to disproportionate luck. It's not quite an 83 but it's up there with 87.
Problem was the Indian seamers did not have the support from the spin department, Jadeja and Kuldeep had combined figures of 0/99 in 20 overs ..
Because of dew which is luck
 

TheJediBrah

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That doesn't change the fact that they got lucky though. I'm just moderately annoyed that a middling side fluked its way to the title owing to disproportionate luck. It's not quite an 83 but it's up there with 87.

Because of dew which is luck
They were the better team by a distance, the conditions didn't decide the result. You sound like a bitch
 

subshakerz

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It's simple guys. We did not have a plan B. You don't win cups when that is the case.

Sri Lanka in 96 had a bad start in the semis on a similar wicket. But they kept going coz they had batting depth with Vaas Dharmasena at 8 and 9 and even Wickramasinghe at 10 scores test 50s and could hit a long ball. It enabled Aravinda to keep going after the bowling and they got themselves to 250 (equivalent of 300 yest). To keep harping on other stuff is to miss the forest for the trees. Aussies this WC had a very similar team to SL 96 with depth and all-round options making up where quality was an issue. They deservingly won just like Lanka in 96.
No. Aside from Rohit and Kohli, everyone else performed below par compared to their performances earlier in the tournament.

KL Rahul couldn't find the gaps or hit out, was crap as keeper. Shami couldn't find his length. Bumrah was only brilliant in spades and expensive. Yadav was playing and missing. Jadeja and Kuldeep couldn't turn it and gave too many loose balls. Gill played a silly shot. Siraj was horrible.

it was a collective underperformance. The pressure got to them. They wilted on the big scene.
 

trundler

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This seems to be an Ahmedabad thing too. In tests as well as ODIs. In ODIs the middle overs of the first innings become impossible to fluently score in and then dew wrecks the team that batted first further by giving the chasing side a head start. Then you had the Joe Root double ton game where the pitch changed massively over the course of the game. Probably because it's a new stadium. The new one in Perth has a weird pitch too.
 

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