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It's not so much late over batting as aggressive batting in general. To an extent it's a product of the system- the English value tests too much for someone with a technique as suited to ODIs as MS Dhoni's to emerge. But for a long time they just didn't seem to think scoring quickly mattered at all. Commentators and pundits are finally moving away from Boycott syndrome (the notion that getting out playing an attacking stroke is an inherently greater sin than getting out playing a defensive stroke) but frustratingly slowly, and they still often fail to resist the urge to label a shot "silly" or "stupid" when it doesn't come off. It's a problem that visibly affects the team- most notably on their visit to India in '08 when they were whitewashed settling for 260~ scores on 300+ pitches against a side with a monster batting lineup but somewhat hittable attack. That said, at the last World T20, England were the most positive team with the bat when other sides were erring by taking too long to rebuild or failing to rotate the strike. So it does at least look like things are changing for the better under Flower.
On a related note, the selectors are still far too attached to members of the test squad. Hussain repeatedly states that "your best players are normally your best players in all formats" and it seems to be an area where English selectors repeatedly make huge mistakes. I still can't quite believe Matt Prior went to the World Cup.
Howe_zat
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While it's obviously to certain extent, Hussain is by and large correct.
nsniks
State Vice-Captain
Another setback? Injured Gauti likely to fly home - Hindustan Times
Gambhir likely to come back to India, so it seems parthiv will open with sachin in ODI's. I wonder who the replacement would be for gambhir
Gambhir likely to come back to India, so it seems parthiv will open with sachin in ODI's. I wonder who the replacement would be for gambhir
nsniks
State Vice-Captain
India news: Ankle surgery after Australia tour - Ishant Sharma | India Cricket News | ESPN Cricinfo
It seems Indian players learnt no lesson during this tour. Ishant delaying his ankle surgery so that he could play in CL t20 and Australia tour. Do we need another incident of bowler breaking down between the tour. FFS get the surgery done, there will be plenty of matches to be played once you are fit and well.
It seems Indian players learnt no lesson during this tour. Ishant delaying his ankle surgery so that he could play in CL t20 and Australia tour. Do we need another incident of bowler breaking down between the tour. FFS get the surgery done, there will be plenty of matches to be played once you are fit and well.
centurymaker
Cricketer Of The Year
aus to win 2-0 / 3-0. india have got no chance.
zaremba
Cricketer Of The Year
Yeah but there's an unshakeable orthodoxy that He Must Bat High Up The Order and for some reason he, and the England team, have given in to it. I'm not convinced by it. There's no shame in being a middle order batsman, even if you aspire to be the team's best player. KP started as a specialist number 5 and I don't see any reason why he shouldn't always bat there in both Tests and ODIs.
In Tests I'd have Bell at 4 and KP at 5.
In ODIs I'd be looking for Bell to go in at 3 (or maybe even open) and KP either at 4 or, preferably, 5.
Jacknife
International Captain
I agree with what your saying as far as being put down to come in at No5 in one day cricket would look like a demotion but I defo think it could be sold as a, your the best man for the job and for the team to go to the next level, you can be that go to finisher.
In tests I think KP in at 4 is right but it comes down to where to best use Bell, ideally he would be best at 3 but of course Trott has made that his home. I think atm there's no need tinker but there's always that possibility there to change if the need arises.
Tbh Bell in one day cricket I'm yet to be convinced and with KP missing this series, it will be the ideal time to show what he can do, where I presume he will take KP's four spot.
I'm really still not sure about Cook & Trott in the top 3 and this is where England could and should be more flexible, depending on the game situation.
kiwiviktor81
International Debutant
What's the likely Indian lineup for the ODIs? Will they open with Patel or maybe even Dravid, given that Gambhir and Sehwag are out?
Howe_zat
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I'd quite like to see KP opening in LO matches.
nsniks
State Vice-Captain
I think they will open with patel, dravid would be in middle order. Rahane could stake a claim in playing XI if he scores a ton in T20 match otherwise I dont see management playing him ahead of patel
wpdavid
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Yup. Certainly judging by teams that have actually flourished in WCs etc.
centurymaker
Cricketer Of The Year
Personally hoping that india lose this series. would shut up all the ******** fans.
nsniks
State Vice-Captain
India in England 2011: Concussed Gambhir to return home | Cricket News | England v India 2011 | ESPN Cricinfo
So one day before the T20 match, they finally decide that Gambhir should be sent back. I dont understand why this decision was not made few days back atleast a replacement could have been sent and atleast that guy would have had some practice. Now last minute replacement would be sent and that guy would have had no match practice what so ever.
I am expecting a 5-0 whitewash in the ODI's also
So one day before the T20 match, they finally decide that Gambhir should be sent back. I dont understand why this decision was not made few days back atleast a replacement could have been sent and atleast that guy would have had some practice. Now last minute replacement would be sent and that guy would have had no match practice what so ever.
I am expecting a 5-0 whitewash in the ODI's also
