***Official*** Super Series

[Steulen]

RoW Test XI: Strauss Smith Dravid Lara Kallis Inzamam Flintoff Taibu Muralitharan Bond Mortaza
ODI XI: Sehwag Gayle Lara Kallis Flintoff Ashraful Taibu Vettori Akhtar Muralitharan Bond

 

[venomous]

Damn! Inzy accepted to play in the useless series I am pretty sure that pcb must have forced him...those jerks...well if he played then it will be a 1 sided game, in a postive way so his exclusion seems apparent.

 

[tooextracool]

Here's your first clue;

http://aus.cricinfo.com/db/ARCHIVE/2003-04/AUS_LOCAL/ING/SCORECARDS/SOA_TAS_ING_09JAN2004.html

8/43; 9 wides, 4 no-balls.

Yes there will be days where he'll be expensive but there will also be days like the above where he'll rip the heart out of an opposition batting line-up.

an individual performance doenst change anything. we were led up to believe that he was cut out for test match cricket at the start of the ashes and yet he performed nowhere near the hype that he got. his accuracy is simply not good enough for him to succeed at the highest level, and its more likely that hes fail in ODIs than in tests.

 

[tooextracool]

Geez, Im glad you were not a selector that sat in judgment on the formative stages of McGrath's, Warne's and SWaugh's careers. Like Tait, they didn't exactly have a great time of things in their first 5-10 Tests. However, the selectors identified them as players who could, long term, be staples of the side. I think, and it's typical of society more generally, that people want instant results, and unless they get that, then a change has to be made.

I mean, the way the great Australian side of the last decade was built, was by identifying, sticking with, and backing young guys (Slater, Warne, McGrath, Healy, Waugh) they were all given time to find their feet. I hope the same latitude is given to guys like Tait, Watson, Jacques and Cullen, or whoever it is the selectors identify as having the talent to sustain a long international career.

oh i believe in giving people extended chances too,assuming they actually look capable of succeeding at it. selecting tait in the wrong form of the game(much like the idea of bracken playing tests) is more likely to be detrimental towards his career than it is going to be a positive.

 

[tooextracool]

How is 2 players out of 13 in the Test squad for England 'in keeping with performance'? And I'll be surprised if Harmison actually plays.

The best side (excluding Australia) by miles, has just beaten Australia and the likes of India and Pakistan have the same number of players as England in the Test squad. England should have had a minimum of 3 players in the Test squad.

theres only 1 other player from england that deserves to be in that squad and he isnt even fit.

 

[marc71178]

Super Series Team selections - countries favoured/Over represented (out of proportion to their performances)
1 South Africa 2 possibly NZ (vettori/coach Wright- Whatmore should have been coach had it not been V Australia)

What about Duncan as coach?

 

[sqwerty]

How is 2 players out of 13 in the Test squad for England 'in keeping with performance'? And I'll be surprised if Harmison actually plays.

The best side (excluding Australia) by miles, has just beaten Australia and the likes of India and Pakistan have the same number of players as England in the Test squad. England should have had a minimum of 3 players in the Test squad.

In all fairness though, who are you going to pick from that England side other than Flintoff and maybe Jones if he's fit?

The Indian and Pakistani players selected are out and out champions as individuals. They don't get the results because as a team they're a bunch of nutcases.

England don't have any superstars, they just play better than anyone as a unit and that's why they're successful.

Hard to pick them in a world side though unless you pick the whole England side.

 

[aussie]

England don't have any superstars,

they just play better than anyone as a unit and that's why they're successful.

1. wa so what would you call Flintoff???

2. true but when Australia are in top form that wont be the case

 

[LongHopCassidy]

I'm flabbergasted that Ashraful isn't in the ODI squad.

 

[aussie]

I'm flabbergasted that Ashraful isn't in the ODI squad.

well thankfully some sense from the World XI selectors prevailed and that didn't happen...

 

[Pedro Delgado]

Still a bit miffed as to why fellows are picking Tres ahead of Strauss in a world 11. Ffs Strauss scored two tons against Warne, Tres didn't.

 

[jlo33692]

LOL! then clearly you haven't seen anything.

I can name ten players whose fitness is and has been far worse than that of Inzi.

Akhtar (almost always unfit) Jones,Bond ,Tendulkar (unfit , yet was selected) Zaheer Khan are some of them!!



LOL! You mean to say that the selectors didn't picked him coz they knew how Inzi is going to react



Whatever attitude you are talking baout had never been a problem with Inzi before this SS series selection, so you point that Inzi wasn't selected coz of his attitude is baseless and infact hilarious.

Sorry but you are too negative about Inzi and far less realistic, Inzi is a class act and even though he's NOT among my fav's cricket, i admire him coz i appreciate a class player.

gee id hate to se if he was among your favorites,Cant agree about his fitness,you are obviously talking about differing kinds of fitness,sure Tendulkar is not fit to play due to elbow injuy but you are not suggesting that inzi is fitter allround than Tendulkar are you?
You cannot even put these together in the same breath as tendulkar as Sachin is in a different class to inzamin,surely you must agree with that,even though he is not one of your favs,hahahaha

 

[jlo33692]

The Telstra Dome is primarily a footy ground, but they've played cricket a few times - the first Chappell-Hadlee Trophy match last year was there...and yes, it does have a roof.

The MCG is having work done to the surface to prepare it for the Commonwealth Games (athletics track and such). Only the Boxing Day Test at the 'G this summer, all the Melbourne ODIs will be at the Telstra Dome.

Thanks Dasa,will you be going to any of the ODI ?
even though they are under a roof is it a day night fixture ,i mean for the start time or is it starting 10am?

 

[Donny]

The ODIs are played at the Telstra Dome and are day/nighters.

Start time: 2:15 AEST (04:15 GMT)

The warm up match for the World XI is against Victoria on Sunday. It starts at 10:00 am. local time. 00.00 GMT.

Vic. team: 1 Cameron White (capt), 2 Adam Crosthwaite, 3 Gerard Denton, 4 Shane Harwood, 5 Brad Hodge, 6 David Hussey, 7 Nick Jewell, 8 Michael Klinger, 9 Michael Lewis, 10 Jonathan Moss, 11 Rob Quiney, 12 Tim Welsford

 

[Dasa]

Thanks Dasa,will you be going to any of the ODI ?
even though they are under a roof is it a day night fixture ,i mean for the start time or is it starting 10am?

They're day-night, and yes, I'm going to the first 2 games (Wed and Fri).

 

[LongHopCassidy]

well thankfully some sense from the World XI selectors prevailed and that didn't happen...

I beg to differ.
The boy can play

 

[sqwerty]

1. wa so what would you call Flintoff???

I call him included already !

 

[tooextracool]

Still a bit miffed as to why fellows are picking Tres ahead of Strauss in a world 11. Ffs Strauss scored two tons against Warne, Tres didn't.

and neither of them are good enough at the moment to make a ROW XI test side.

 

[Choora]

Cant agree about his fitness,you are obviously talking about differing kinds of fitness,sure Tendulkar is not fit to play due to elbow injuy but you are not suggesting that inzi is fitter allround than Tendulkar are you?

Fitter allrounder the terms you use are absolutely hilarious.

Listen kid, Inzi has been fit enough to have played most of the matches played by Pakistan this year.The same can't be said about Akhtar,Tendulkar, Jones and Bond.Unless Tendulkar resumes his test cricket he simply cannot be declared as a fitter player than any current active playing cricketer.This is very simple to understand, try to get this between your two ears!

You cannot even put these together in the same breath as tendulkar as Sachin is in a different class to inzamin,surely you must agree with that,even though he is not one of your favs,hahahaha

What have that to do with ongoing discussion?


and i have a question for you, why isn't Sachin name's included for the ICC test and OD award category?? Surely a fitter allrounder (as you like to call him ) deserves a mention, doesn't he?

 

[marc71178]

To be fair to Simon Jones, he's missed 1 game through injury in the last 3 series.