***Official*** Sri Lanka in Australia 2012/2013

[Spark]

Johnson's only a regular because we're literally down to our 7th or 8th choice quicks.

 

[Andre]

Is it just me or are we almost giving away baggy greens these days? No disrespect to Bird, his numbers are terrific, but it used to seem a lot harder to get into the Test side than it is now.

And stuff this resting thing btw, that's what ODI's are for. Test cricket means you pick your best 11 at all times, regardless. What a load of absolute crock this sports science crap is. Never seen anyone get fit by not bowling.

 

[wellAlbidarned]

Well, not having a line-up stacked with ATGs means you do have to start picking normal humans

 

[Andre]

Well, not having a line-up stacked with ATGs means you do have to start picking normal humans

Yeah you've kinda missed the point. Even though you pick normal humans, they still should be working really hard and banging the door down over a few seasons for a game.

 

[wellAlbidarned]

Ideally, yes, but there's evidently a bit of a missing generation - there's not really any untested 25-30 year olds with substantial successful FC careers to call on anymore so selectors are getting drawn towards players with excellent but short careers.

 

[andyc]

Yeah you've kinda missed the point. Even though you pick normal humans, they still should be working really hard and banging the door down over a few seasons for a game.

To be fair, Bird's done exactly that. 87 wickets over two seasons averaging under 20 is as good as you can hope for. It's the batsmen who are getting a gig after only one or two decent seasons.

 

[chaminda_00]

Ideally, yes, but there's evidently a bit of a missing generation - there's not really any untested 25-30 year olds with substantial successful FC careers to call on anymore so selectors are getting drawn towards players with excellent but short careers.

Well there is Luke Butterworth but that would go against the policy you need to bowl 140km/h to play for Australia.

Or you could give another chance to likes of Doug Bollinger, John Hastings or Clint McKay. Dougie would break the one left armer rule and the other two would break the 140km/h rule.

The unwritten rules about workload, variety and pace are what is creating the selection issues for Australia. Not the lack of option.

 

[wellAlbidarned]

I said untested - apart from Butterworth they've all been tried and discarded.

 

[Andre]

To be fair, Bird's done exactly that. 87 wickets over two seasons averaging under 20 is as good as you can hope for. It's the batsmen who are getting a gig after only one or two decent seasons.

Yeah Bird I've got no issue with - ideally I'd have liked him a year longer but he has demanded selection. So my post wasn't so much towards him as it is guys like Khawaja, Hazlewood, Hastings etc.

 

[chaminda_00]

Yeah Bird I've got no issue with - ideally I'd have liked him a year longer but he has demanded selection. So my post wasn't so much towards him as it is guys like Khawaja, Hazlewood, Hastings etc.

Hasting and Khawaja are more proven then Bird in FC cricket. Bird has only played 17 FC matches, Hastings 26 and Khawaja 60.

Hazlewood yes, he would be a unproven player picked on potential only. But the other three has a couple seasons of runs and wickets at FC level and have out performed other options with similar experience.

I just think the expectations for the performances prior to selection are too high due to fact that a decade ago, guys had to play 10 seasons of FC cricket before they got into the side. The performance of the likes of Bird, Hastings and Khawaja is status quo for all other Test nations.

 

[howardj]

Hate how Aus think that resting guys is being cutting edge

On the contrary, managing guys so they play every Test (like SA do with Steyn)...that's being cutting edge

 

[howardj]

Invers:

''I don't know why it takes people so long to get their head around it. It's an integral part of AFL football, [Carlton AFL star] Chris Judd plays 78 or 82 per cent of the game. He blitzes it for seven or eight minutes, then he comes off for three minutes. I don't see the difference"

lol

 

[Prince EWS]

Invers:

''I don't know why it takes people so long to get their head around it. It's an integral part of AFL football, [Carlton AFL star] Chris Judd plays 78 or 82 per cent of the game. He blitzes it for seven or eight minutes, then he comes off for three minutes. I don't see the difference"

lol

He completely Cenvo'd that.

 

[howardj]

What does that mean?

 

[Burgey]

What does that mean?

Setting up a false equivalence is known as Cevnoing.

 

[wellAlbidarned]

Isn't that just straw-manning?

 

[Tangles]

Invers:

''I don't know why it takes people so long to get their head around it. It's an integral part of AFL football, [Carlton AFL star] Chris Judd plays 78 or 82 per cent of the game. He blitzes it for seven or eight minutes, then he comes off for three minutes. I don't see the difference"

lol

I literally slapped my head when I read that. How about because football and cricket are not equivalent dip ****. 22 rounds of football not including pre and post season is not the same as 12 ( 6 home and 6 away?) tests a year. An EPL team like Man Utd can play 50 games a year so thats not the same either. And this is the guy in charge?

 

[burr]

Is it just me or are we almost giving away baggy greens these days? No disrespect to Bird, his numbers are terrific, but it used to seem a lot harder to get into the Test side than it is now.

And stuff this resting thing btw, that's what ODI's are for. Test cricket means you pick your best 11 at all times, regardless. What a load of absolute crock this sports science crap is. Never seen anyone get fit by not bowling.

YES. I am so angry over this resting rubbish. The Australian Baggy Green has to be earned. Really, we have completely lost our way. This is one of the darkest periods in Aus cricket history.

 

[Spikey]

the baggy green is just a green hat that poorly protects one's face and neck. it's worth as much as jono

 

[Spikey]

like i'm cool with giving jackson bird that silly hat if the doctors are saying there's a serious chance starc may be close to a serious injury.