***Official*** South Africa v West Indies

[Swervy]

How long has kallis been batting for now...I would take a guess at 400 minutes..the sixth slowest 100 of all time was done in 488 minutes....will be interesting to see if he comes close (if there is enough time left that is)

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

What's Powell's average pace? Cricinfo has him at Fast Medium, but does he deserve to be rated as Fast? How about Washington's pace? Is he a legitimate fast or a fast-medium

Washington bowls fast-medium but chucks pace.

 

[tooextracool]

Well now I'm sure you haven't watched the cricket or much West Indies cricket at all. Not only is Daren Powell the best West Indian pacer this season, but he's bowled superbly in this match to prove that his place in the team is long overdue.

why was he dropped ITFP? as i said before the game, he was extremely impressive in india, and was dropped after that.

 

[tooextracool]

yeah..maybe for shorter periods of time...but SA's 222 in 138 overs surely must be slower than England were most of the time

Australia probably would be on 600 now...declared and try to actually beat the West Indies (ok maybe not)

a) that would be very foolish
b) if SA had anywhere near the quality of players that australia do, they wouldnt be following on ITFP.

 

[Langeveldt]

Jacques, you are a champion..

I saw every single ball of todays play, something told me in Kallis's defense this morning that this knock would be a long one, and I was determined to follow him through it.. A brilliant feat of concentration, (on my part as well )

Now, lets start again SA.. WI are obviously putting up a bit more of a fight than we thought..

 

[Neil Pickup]

yeah..maybe for shorter periods of time...but SA's 222 in 138 overs surely must be slower than England were most of the time

Australia probably would be on 600 now...declared and try to actually beat the West Indies (ok maybe not)

You're right - hovered around 2 an over most of the time - at its slowest 210 for 9 off 108 overs.

 

[Mister Wright]

Lara, Sarwan, Gayle & Bravo return

Lara, Sarwan, Gayle & Bravo return but Chanderpaul keeps the captaincy.

Full story here

 

[Kumar_42]

Lara, Sarwan, Gayle & Bravo return but Chanderpaul keeps the captaincy.

Full story here

To me this latest development has a similar trend to that of the Zimbabwean crisis, although obviously under very different circumstances. The pattern is analgous though- a conflict between some 'rebel' players and the board occurs, which leads to them being dropped and new, inexperienced players coming in whereby the former captain, who incidently was a forerunner in the 'conflict' loses his title. The resolution also is similar-the conflict superficially at least appears resolved and the former 'rebels' return at the expense of the debutants, and the former captain returns, playing under the authority of the new captain...

sorry if this sounds confusing but I just noticed a sort of 'deja-vu' with the crisis in that its resembling at a superficial level the Zimbabwean crisis. Just my 2 cents...

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

why was he dropped ITFP? as i said before the game, he was extremely impressive in india, and was dropped after that.

Not entirely sure. I do know he was shattered when he was dropped though. Credit to him for gathering himself and returning though.

 

[Nate]

To me this latest development has a similar trend to that of the Zimbabwean crisis, although obviously under very different circumstances. The pattern is analgous though- a conflict between some 'rebel' players and the board occurs, which leads to them being dropped and new, inexperienced players coming in whereby the former captain, who incidently was a forerunner in the 'conflict' loses his title. The resolution also is similar-the conflict superficially at least appears resolved and the former 'rebels' return at the expense of the debutants, and the former captain returns, playing under the authority of the new captain...

sorry if this sounds confusing but I just noticed a sort of 'deja-vu' with the crisis in that its resembling at a superficial level the Zimbabwean crisis. Just my 2 cents...

Nice work mate! A tad more interesting than the last Kumar who posted.

 

[Marius]

Thank goodness for Jacques Kallis. It will be interesting to see the line-up for the next Test. The most likely outcome is Hall getting dropped for Prince possibly?

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

I would, if possible, drop Rudolph, Hall and Langeveldt. All were extremely unimpressive.

 

[sledger]

I would, if possible, drop Rudolph, Hall and Langeveldt. All were extremely unimpressive.

rudolph should be left out for dipenaar, need pollock back to take the place of one of the others, would persevere with langeveldt one more match, if he continues to be poor then maybe give steyn a run out.

 

[Marius]

I would have Rudolph before Dippenaar thanks. And Langeveldt had one poor game, but he is still a class act (witness his Test debut), but methinks South Africa has problems.

 

[wpdavid]

I would have Rudolph before Dippenaar thanks. And Langeveldt had one poor game, but he is still a class act (witness his Test debut), but methinks South Africa has problems.

I suspect their biggest problem is their lack of meaningful cricket immediately before the series. I still don't think they will be bowled out cheaply by WI very often. If WI want to win the series, I wonder if we'll see a livelier track next up whilst Pollock's still missing.

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

I would have Rudolph before Dippenaar thanks. And Langeveldt had one poor game, but he is still a class act (witness his Test debut), but methinks South Africa has problems.

Perhaps. It was worrying how utterly useless both looked on that pitch though.

 

[Langeveldt]

I would have Steyn for Hall (extra bowler) for Trinidad.. Im convinced you need something rapid to get anything out of these West Indian pitches, and Dale could do with a bit of a run, I hear he has been bowling very nicely for the Titans..

 

[Mister Wright]

I would, if possible, drop Rudolph, Hall and Langeveldt. All were extremely unimpressive.

Yeah, Rudolph has to go, unless he's playing Bangladesh he really doesn't look like he is test class.

 

[Langeveldt]

Yeah, Rudolph has to go, unless he's playing Bangladesh he really doesn't look like he is test class.

I'd keep him, only for lack of a reliable alternative.. Im no way going to have Amla back, Prince to me doesnt look test class, Dippenaar and McKenzie have had a lot of chances..

I'd be interested in seeing how Vaughn van Jaarsveld is progressing.. I've always thought he could be a middle order player for South Africa

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

I would have Steyn for Hall (extra bowler) for Trinidad.. Im convinced you need something rapid to get anything out of these West Indian pitches, and Dale could do with a bit of a run, I hear he has been bowling very nicely for the Titans..

If only he were in the squad...