Ok I am just gonna put it out there because apparently no one wants to acknowledge a big fat elephant in the room. I tried to bring it up in the Good Pitch thread and again no one wanted to address it.
This is not a debate about good pitch vs bad pitch or Trentbridge/Perth vs Nagpur or 'when their game ends in 3 days it's okay but when our game does everyone goes crazy' memes that are going around on social media.
The real conversation that everyone including Jeff Crowe, Ravi Shastri, pitch curators, BCCI stooges like Bhogle, cricket analysts, commentators, *****, cricketweb and any other stakeholder needs to have is this - if a pitch starts turning from Day 1, is it still a good cricket pitch or not? The traditional idea is that the pitch should only start turning from Day 4. And we have to be aware that if a pitch starts turning from Day 1, there is a high possibility that the match will not last 5 days which of course means loss of revenue and all that. Because that's all there was to Nagpur. The ball turned on Day 1 and we saw Day 4/5 scores from Day 1 onwards. It wasn't a dangerous pitch or anything, it just behaved on Day 1 the way it usually behaves on Day 4/5.
MS Dhoni is the only guy who talked about it so bluntly and as his fan, I have to be follow.
So let's stop mocking each other and being petty and instead focus on whether it's still a good pitch if the ball starts turning from Day 1.