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*Official* South Africa in England Thread
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Craig
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It is common knowledge that after Sir Garry Sobers best mate Collie Smith died in that car accident in 1957, Sobers turned to the drink to ease his problems, but then he started playing for both of them.
I am starting to believe Smith is playing for Kallis as well. I feel sorry for Rudolph, he needs a decent hit.
I am starting to believe Smith is playing for Kallis as well. I feel sorry for Rudolph, he needs a decent hit.
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From all reports, it seems a combined effort.Eclipse said:
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I don't mean to make him sound selfish, but I think Smith is playing for himself primarily - responding to the critics....in style!Craig said:
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It's possible....
luckyeddie
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Half an hour after tea and 700 on the board will be what England expect - so go on until they're all out is what I would do.
Put England into a position that if they are still batting after tea on Monday (yeah) they will still be behind.
Put England into a position that if they are still batting after tea on Monday (yeah) they will still be behind.
luckyeddie
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It was a much-improved display - and if England's fielders had been able to cling on to those really fierce dollies he could well have had 3 or 4 wickets.marc71178 said:
Mind you, his slip fielding was as bad as everyone else's (zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz).
luckyeddie
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Brainless cricket.
Consider the circumstances England are in at the moment. Shot selection is a prime concern - this is a 5 game series and even facing almost inevitable defeat, there are still points to be won (mental scars to inflict, if you like) which can be carried on to the rest of the series. Go down, sure, but go down fighting. Make them shoot you before you are willing to leave the crease.
Now read on....
Bowl outside Graeme Smith's off stick and he may eventually get himself out - mind you, usually with 250 odd on the board. That's because he leaves, leaves, leaves and leaves again. The bowler gets bored first and changes his line, eventually putting the ball into an area the South African skipper wants - and he hits a boundary or pushes a single.
Remember that? It's called 'batting' - something Vaughan was brilliant at.
Bowl outside Vaughan's off stump in this game and he might well leave a couple - and then he will have a wild yahoo at the ball. Not only that, having been granted a life, he will then do it again 2 balls later.
A couple of overs later, Trescothick goes for what I can only describe as a Flintoff - and Adams shows England how to catch.
Whatever happened to 'play each ball on it's merits'?
Ah well. Curry for tea for me.
Humble pie for England.
Consider the circumstances England are in at the moment. Shot selection is a prime concern - this is a 5 game series and even facing almost inevitable defeat, there are still points to be won (mental scars to inflict, if you like) which can be carried on to the rest of the series. Go down, sure, but go down fighting. Make them shoot you before you are willing to leave the crease.
Now read on....
Bowl outside Graeme Smith's off stick and he may eventually get himself out - mind you, usually with 250 odd on the board. That's because he leaves, leaves, leaves and leaves again. The bowler gets bored first and changes his line, eventually putting the ball into an area the South African skipper wants - and he hits a boundary or pushes a single.
Remember that? It's called 'batting' - something Vaughan was brilliant at.
Bowl outside Vaughan's off stump in this game and he might well leave a couple - and then he will have a wild yahoo at the ball. Not only that, having been granted a life, he will then do it again 2 balls later.
A couple of overs later, Trescothick goes for what I can only describe as a Flintoff - and Adams shows England how to catch.
Whatever happened to 'play each ball on it's merits'?
Ah well. Curry for tea for me.
Humble pie for England.
luckyeddie
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of that there is no doubt - however, given the flatness of the pitch, this should have been a nailed-on draw.Choora said:
Of the 12 England wickets to fall - ok, let's ignore the tail - of the other nine to fall, I can only recall Butcher being undone by a really great ball. The others have all thrown it away - and that sickens me.
In England's first innings, they played as though they were setting a target in a ODI. At least in the second (after Vaughan and Trescothick's suicide pact, admittedly) Butcher and Hussain have tried to be more selective (ok, Nasser was fortunate early).
i was listening to the cricket via radio, (bbc has live coverage on the internet-go to baggygreen, then the match) and i could literally hear, not from the commentators, but from the field, how bad england were playing. if LARGE changes are not made in the next test, then Smith is a shoe-in for Bradmans 100 average.
luckyeddie
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read marc's article - it's good