uvelocity
International Coach
has awesome longevity though
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**Official** South Africa in England 2012
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Scaly piscine
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Err I don't think Strauss' captaincy was anything exceptional and given what a millstone he was with the bat and in the field I don't think his retirement will have a detrimental impact on England. The only thing you arguably miss is the leadership, but England seemed to win games they were dominating and lose the closer ones. The tactics and so on is mostly dictated behind the scenes.
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You live in London don't you? Pretty sure you'll be sick of ramps by the time the Paralympics is over.
Jayzamann
International Regular
Had to do a shameful double, then triple take of that before it clicked.
theegyptian
International Vice-Captain
Swann rested for the remaining ODI's. Swann's elbow must be in pieces to be rested mid-series like this with Eng 1-0 down. Probably also sheds some light on dropping him for the Headingly Test- possibly more resting than dropping.
Raises real concerns for the Indian tour for me regarding Swann. Might make it but doubt he goes to New Zealand.
Raises real concerns for the Indian tour for me regarding Swann. Might make it but doubt he goes to New Zealand.
grecian
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I said during the Tests he should have an op to fix it as soon as he can, if possible. He really is little use to us ATM. Would rather have Monty, Kerrigan or Tredwell. For ODIs Briggs is a certainty, with perhaps Keedy or Rashid as long-shots.
Stumpcam
U19 Captain
Yeah, I would go with Briggs for limited overs games too. He's the only one of the three to have bowled a maiden in the CB40 this season, although he's only bowled one. Has youth on his side and seems a very calm young man. Left arm though so could be viewed as too similar to Patel, although he bowls it much slower than Patel, I think.
2012 CB40 stats:
Keedy 68overs, 19wkts @ 19.83
Briggs 76overs, 17wkts @ 22.24
Rashid 56overs, 12wkts @ 25.17
Viscount Tom
International Debutant
Difference is though Compton's opened before.
Carberry should be in the team ahead of Root IMO the latter needs more time to develop and Carbs has done well on the domestic circuit for a few years.
Carberry should be in the team ahead of Root IMO the latter needs more time to develop and Carbs has done well on the domestic circuit for a few years.
Pup Clarke
Cricketer Of The Year
Didn't realise Cook was coming up to 28 - thought he was 24/25 for some reason.
Viscount Tom
International Debutant
Shahzhad really? Bopara!? Rashid?
Look I don't have a problem with Samit but Bopara has been given tons of opportunities at test level and never seems to do much when properly tests. Shahzad hasn't done enough to usurpe Finn and Rashid's gone backwards by and large since he last played, to drop Bairstow after he top scored for us at Lords is just daft.
Look I don't have a problem with Samit but Bopara has been given tons of opportunities at test level and never seems to do much when properly tests. Shahzad hasn't done enough to usurpe Finn and Rashid's gone backwards by and large since he last played, to drop Bairstow after he top scored for us at Lords is just daft.
MW1304
Cricketer Of The Year
Can't believe I haven't dug these before. Basically what I am claiming here is that Philander got his chance because of me, it can't really be doubted. And PEWS WAC.
Manee
Cricketer Of The Year
Agreed. Well done.
Prince EWS
Global Moderator
Haha, I was really keen to see him picked; I'd dig up my posts about it just before his debut if I could be bothered. I just really didn't think he ever actually would for the reasons I gave; it took a change in coach for him to be finally given a game.
People involved with CPL/CWPL will testify to how happy I was to see him go well too because my rating system had him at the second best bowler in the world just before his debut. There were no other uncapped players in the top 35 or so at the time.
MW1304
Cricketer Of The Year
Nah I know, that did come across in your post. I dug it because I remembered posting something about Philander before his debut wondering why he wasn't playing, but in reality I was someone who had no idea about the South African first class system, or Philander's bowling, asking the obvious question based on his crazy statistics.
Prince EWS
Global Moderator
Yeah, I'd been wanting to see him picked for a while at that point, so I was more or less just giving you the explanation for his non-selection that I'd gathered, rather than justifying it. I taste a lot of things on CW but if I had to taste the Test success of a long-term successful First Class bowler from a good domestic system I'd cease to be Cribbage.
Swann looked pretty good in the One dayers against Australia. Then again that doesn't mean much I guess considering how they are at the moment.
grecian
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I agree, but I was really thinking what we could do short-term if he wanted an op, but it was poorly worded
I really want him back as an effective Test player, so would be happy to give up on his performances in the T/20 WC, to get it right. The Indian tour will be particularly embarrassing too, if he's not ripping it. TBH Monty possibly the better bowler in sub-continent too.