Great Birtannia
U19 Captain
I'd like to know how often the NZ bottom 6 outscore their top 5. It seems to happen every time we play them.
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**Official** Semi Finals and Final
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TT Boy
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Did the same aganist South Africa recently (twice)...Great Birtannia said:
http://uk.cricinfo.com/db/ARCHIVE/2005-06/NZ_IN_RSA/SCORECARDS/NZ_RSA_T1_15-19APR2006.html
The NZ top order is an embarrassment, it really tests your support for the side.
I think we need to blood new talent (who score at a fast rate). Throw in Taylor, open with Astle & Fleming. Drop Vincent (out of form), Marshall (out of form) & Fulton (poor technique).
Throw in Vetorri at 3? Try opening again with him?
We have to do SOMETHING, absolutely anything. Change is needed.
I think we need to blood new talent (who score at a fast rate). Throw in Taylor, open with Astle & Fleming. Drop Vincent (out of form), Marshall (out of form) & Fulton (poor technique).
Throw in Vetorri at 3? Try opening again with him?
We have to do SOMETHING, absolutely anything. Change is needed.
The Baconator
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lord_of_darkness
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oh jeez.. if vettori can bat why the hell cant the rest of our 'specialist' batsmen..pathetic really.. we should have won it!
lord_of_darkness
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^ should have put some cash behind that playboy 
thierry henry
International Coach
I'd rephrase- Vincent (embarrassingly useless), Marshall (quite useless), Fulton (out of form.)meatspx said:
I dunno who you think you are gonna blood (apart from Taylor, who is a must). Fulton was picked because of an outstanding domestic record. We don't have anyone better than him who isn't in the squad.
Mr Mxyzptlk
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Agreed on Vincent.thierry henry said:
Last few innings:
8
5
5
25
102
1
17
13
3
1
Not exactly a brilliant record.
Johnners
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Top Performance by Australia!!!
Great to see Glen back at his Metronomic best, whats even better is that he can only get better during the ashes
. Pleased to see Ponting bat well again, what was even better was the he didn't fall to Bond, who IIRC has taken Punters wicket 6 out of 6 times they've faced off 
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All in all, a Strong performance, and we're looking the goods to take out our first CT i'm hoping
Great to see Glen back at his Metronomic best, whats even better is that he can only get better during the ashes
. Pleased to see Ponting bat well again, what was even better was the he didn't fall to Bond, who IIRC has taken Punters wicket 6 out of 6 times they've faced off . All in all, a Strong performance, and we're looking the goods to take out our first CT i'm hoping
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He was pretty lucky that he encountered a Bond who looked far short of his best.Clapo said:Pleased to see Ponting bat well again, what was even better was the he didn't fall to Bond, who IIRC has taken Punters wicket 6 out of 6 times they've faced off
Bahnz
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One can not emphasise enough how much New Zealand's top order let them down. Had we made it through the opening 15 overs with only 3, maybe even 4 wickets down, we would have won this. But when the situation called for application and graft, our batsman either threw their wickets away with loose shots (yes I'm looking at you Mr Fleming), or their technique was ruthlessly exposed (particularly with Fulton and Vincent). Serious changes need to be made to our middle order, as it currently looks at its weakest since the mid-90's.
Fulton has to go, his eventual dismissal's inevitability was matched only by its hilarity. He looks woefully out of his depth against quality bowling.
Marshall's confidence at international level seems completely shot, and he again got out to a loose shot outside off stump. He still deserves one last chance in test cricket, given his form for Gloucestershire, but he can no longer hold down a place in the one day side.
Despite our greatest efforts to make Vincent a Gilchrist-style opener, it just isn't working. He doesn't have the talent or technique to match his aggressive intent, and on any other surface besides a batsman's paradise, he is always going to fail. I don't think he should be dropped though, he belongs down the order, were his deficiencies won't be as exposed by the new ball. I'd be particularly interested to see how well he could bat in conjunction with McCullum, at the death.
On the other side of the coin our bowling is looking good. Mills looks like a completely different player to the man of a couple of seasons ago. Bond is still recovering, but a bit of match practice will bring him right. Oram and Vettori are as accurate as ever and in Patel we may have discovered a genuine wicket taker in both forms of the game.
Possible XI for SL and VB series
Fleming
Astle
Taylor
Styris
Vincent
Oram
McCullum
Vettori
Mills
Bond
Patel/Gillespie (depending on the pitch)
Overall Australia fully deserved their win. Their top order showed the application and technique that New Zealand didn't have, which set the platform for them to get an excellent score. Then, when it looked like the match was slipping away form them while Oram and Vettori were batting, they kept their heads, to get the key breakthroughs. I don't think they'll have any problems winning this tournament from here.
Fulton has to go, his eventual dismissal's inevitability was matched only by its hilarity. He looks woefully out of his depth against quality bowling.
Marshall's confidence at international level seems completely shot, and he again got out to a loose shot outside off stump. He still deserves one last chance in test cricket, given his form for Gloucestershire, but he can no longer hold down a place in the one day side.
Despite our greatest efforts to make Vincent a Gilchrist-style opener, it just isn't working. He doesn't have the talent or technique to match his aggressive intent, and on any other surface besides a batsman's paradise, he is always going to fail. I don't think he should be dropped though, he belongs down the order, were his deficiencies won't be as exposed by the new ball. I'd be particularly interested to see how well he could bat in conjunction with McCullum, at the death.
On the other side of the coin our bowling is looking good. Mills looks like a completely different player to the man of a couple of seasons ago. Bond is still recovering, but a bit of match practice will bring him right. Oram and Vettori are as accurate as ever and in Patel we may have discovered a genuine wicket taker in both forms of the game.
Possible XI for SL and VB series
Fleming
Astle
Taylor
Styris
Vincent
Oram
McCullum
Vettori
Mills
Bond
Patel/Gillespie (depending on the pitch)
Overall Australia fully deserved their win. Their top order showed the application and technique that New Zealand didn't have, which set the platform for them to get an excellent score. Then, when it looked like the match was slipping away form them while Oram and Vettori were batting, they kept their heads, to get the key breakthroughs. I don't think they'll have any problems winning this tournament from here.
