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*Official* Second Test at Lords

FaaipDeOiad

FaaipDeOiad

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Always dangerous batting in situations like this where the team is on and off the field. Pretty good place for England to be right now.
 
zaremba

zaremba

Cricketer Of The Year
91Jmay said:
You think strauss told him to bowl legstump, waist high short balls or even better the longhop or "slower bouncer" or w.e its called?

I don't.
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No I don't think that and I wasn't saying that. As I've already explained, I haven't been watching this afternoon. I'm just responding to TEC's comment that Broad was stupid for bowling short on this pitch. And in relation to that, if Strauss has told him to dig it in, then it's right that he should do so.
 
TT Boy

TT Boy

Hall of Fame Member
wfdu_ben91 said:
When it's so painfully obvious, yes. Fair enough if Anderson was an accomplished bowler, but his averaging mid 30's over an extended period, FFS. Same thing goes for Zaheer Khan trying to sledge Hayden or Pietersen. Shocking.
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Worst in recent time, newbie Matt Prior tucking into Sachin. Prior, "I drive a Porsche, what car do you drive?" :laugh:
 
zaremba

zaremba

Cricketer Of The Year
TT Boy said:
Worst in recent time, newbie Matt Prior tucking into Sachin. Prior, "I drive a Porsche, what car do you drive?" :laugh:
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Sorry but this is classic half-baked anti-Prior rubbish.

He wasn't sledging Tendulkar. Why on earth would he try to sledge someone who's hundreds of times richer than he is by talking about what car he drove?

Anyhow this is what happened:

"The Porsche thing was a joke that backfired. It started when I mentioned a sponsor's name, Bollinger, between deliveries and it was picked up by the stump microphone. The next day, a bottle of champagne was delivered to my place in the England dressing room from a guy who had heard his company's name on television. As a joke the following day, Alastair Cook, who was fielding at shortsquare leg, said: 'I like Bang and Olufsen televisions'. Then I said my favourite car was the Porsche Carrera. It was as innocent as that, a joke between two cricketers and never a sledge directed at Tendulkar, who anyway owns a fleet of cars and aircraft. But all we got was abuse from the media."
 
GIMH

GIMH

Norwood's on Fire
TT Boy said:
Worst in recent time, newbie Matt Prior tucking into Sachin. Prior, "I drive a Porsche, what car do you drive?" :laugh:
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TBF I read that that wasn't done as a sledge to Tendulkar, but as a way to try and get a Porsche. Someone can probably illustrate this one a bit more, edit, or indeed already has done :laugh:
 
TT Boy

TT Boy

Hall of Fame Member
zaremba said:
Sorry but this is classic half-baked anti-Prior rubbish.

He wasn't sledging Tendulkar. Why on earth would he try to sledge someone who's hundreds of times richer than he is by talking about what car he drove?

Anyhow this is what happened:

"The Porsche thing was a joke that backfired. It started when I mentioned a sponsor's name, Bollinger, between deliveries and it was picked up by the stump microphone. The next day, a bottle of champagne was delivered to my place in the England dressing room from a guy who had heard his company's name on television. As a joke the following day, Alastair Cook, who was fielding at shortsquare leg, said: 'I like Bang and Olufsen televisions'. Then I said my favourite car was the Porsche Carrera. It was as innocent as that, a joke between two cricketers and never a sledge directed at Tendulkar, who anyway owns a fleet of cars and aircraft. But all we got was abuse from the media."
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According to Prior.
 
Matt79

Matt79

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Doesn't Sachin own a couple of Ferrari's that he drives around at 3am anyway? How is "I drive a Porsche, what do you drive?" possibly a sledge in that circumstance?
 
zaremba

zaremba

Cricketer Of The Year
Matt79 said:
Doesn't Sachin own a couple of Ferrari's that he drives around at 3am anyway? How is "I drive a Porsche, what do you drive?" possibly a sledge in that circumstance?
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Quite. And "Hey, poor little 3rd World fella, I've got more money than you" doesn't really work on one of India's richest superstars.

I've yet to hear how anyone explains the Porsche remark as a sledge. Whereas Prior's version of events is completely plausible.
 
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91Jmay

International Coach
Maybe he was hoping he could get Sachin to list all of his cars, thus tiring him due to the sheer volume of oxygen he would need to do this?

Genius from the man i'd say.
 
zaremba

zaremba

Cricketer Of The Year
91Jmay said:
Maybe he was hoping he could get Sachin to list all of his cars, thus tiring him due to the sheer volume of oxygen he would need to do this?

Genius from the man i'd say.
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Yep - or he could have described all the Test match centuries he'd scored, and asked Sachin to do the same.
 
Richard

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
zaremba said:
I've not been watching but if this is correct then presumably the rain break(s) will allow Broad to reflect on the need to bowl a fuller length. And he ought to be being told this by Strauss, Flower and Gibson as well.

Unless, of course, he's under specific instructions to bang it in, in which case he's not really to be blamed for doing so.
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Never understood this. Bowlers should decide their own strategy and think for themsleves. Captains are supposed to be inferior at understanding the art of bowling than bowlers, because they're mostly batsmen. If bowlers are told to do something and feel it's not in their best interests they should say "no that's wrong, I need to bowl ____, I'm not going to be following those silly instructions". Equally, if a bowler needs to be told the best way to bowl in such obvious circumstances, you have to worry about his bowling intelligence.
 
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