Official - Road to Ashes 2023

[Prince EWS]

No, the claim is literally that the pitches do not help seam movement, but that the weather does, despite there being no plausible mechanism.

The weather helps the swing.

As I said above I think the main reason there's more seam movement in England is the Duke.

 

[duffer]

Lords - usually a flat deck
Oval - flat as a pancake
Old Trafford - great batting deck
Headingly - moves a bit still a great batting deck
Trent Bridge - moves a bit
Edgbaston - notoriously good batting deck

and you can argue about the non test Decks elsewhere

Perfect for Bazballin'

 

[Starfighter]

The weather helps the swing.

Which is not the contention here.

 

[andruid]

Lords - usually a flat deck
Oval - flat as a pancake
Old Trafford - great batting deck
Headingly - moves a bit still a great batting deck
Trent Bridge - moves a bit
Edgbaston - notoriously good batting deck

and you can argue about the non test Decks elsewhere

Fairly sure that at least one if not both of Trent Bridge and Edgbaston have track records of facilitating meme-spells and FM bowling triggered epic collapses over the years. OT also turns more than your every day English wicket

 

[Starfighter]

Fairly sure that at least one if not both of Trent Bridge and Edgbaston have track records of facilitating meme-spells and FM bowling triggered epic collapses over the years. OT also turns more than your every day English wicket

Yeah, it's a bullshit assessment. The Lord's pitch in 2019 had more irregular bounce than I've seen on any Australian pitch except the very cracked Perth ones. They've even dug up the top layer because it was too awkward for BazBall. Generally there is more movement first up than elsewhere (expect South Africa) because the pitches are softer and moister, even if they are not grassy.

 

[Molehill]

Fairly sure that at least one if not both of Trent Bridge and Edgbaston have track records of facilitating meme-spells and FM bowling triggered epic collapses over the years. OT also turns more than your every day English wicket

Australia were 8 down for 100 at Edgbaston in 2019 before Anderson's injury and Smith's excellence changed the course of the game. Lyon also took his best match figures in England in that game too, a 9fer.

 

[Burgey]

Aus had lost one wicket when Anderson got injured

 

[Molehill]

Aus had lost one wicket when Anderson got injured

My point was more than I'm not sure the last 2 wickets put on 180 odd if he wasn't.....and that clearly Edgbaston was not a flat deck that day (or any day really) in that match.

 

[Burgey]

I saw the piece Broad and Anderson did asking AI how to get Smith out at Edgbaston and in general. It's obvious they're still scarred, still traumatized by what he did to them last time. I don't think they've recovered. They're damaged goods. It's done.

 

[Ashes81]

I saw the piece Broad and Anderson did asking AI how to get Smith out at Edgbaston and in general. It's obvious they're still scarred, still traumatized by what he did to them last time. I don't think they've recovered. They're damaged goods. It's done.

Obviously that's not correct but even if it was Robinson will get Smith.

Failing that we've got Mo back into the fold, so we've got Smith well covered.

 

[FBU]

I saw the piece Broad and Anderson did asking AI how to get Smith out at Edgbaston and in general. It's obvious they're still scarred, still traumatized by what he did to them last time. I don't think they've recovered. They're damaged goods. It's done.

 

[sphynx]

Heard a nice statistic today that Moeen would become statistically the worst all rounder of all time with 1 more test.

No non-wicketkeeper with 64+ tests in history will have a worse batting or bowling average than Moeen's 28.29 with the bat and 36.66 with the ball.

Every player in history with 64+ tests betters either his bat or bowling average.

 

[andruid]

I saw the piece Broad and Anderson did asking AI how to get Smith out at Edgbaston and in general. It's obvious they're still scarred, still traumatized by what he did to them last time. I don't think they've recovered. They're damaged goods. It's done.

ChatGPT cricket coaching?

 

[Pothas]

Heard a nice statistic today that Moeen would become statistically the worst all rounder of all time with 1 more test.

No non-wicketkeeper with 64+ tests in history will have a worse batting or bowling average than Moeen's 28.29 with the bat and 36.66 with the ball.

Every player in history with 64+ tests betters either his bat or bowling average.

Who uses 64 tests as a cut off?

 

[Molehill]

Who uses 64 tests as a cut off?

Moeen presumably, it's obviously why he originally retired on 63.

 

[Aidan11]

He hasn't played yet. We might still go with an all pace attack.

 

[Starfighter]

Who uses 64 tests as a cut off?

He was reading BigFooty, where someone posted that if he plays he'd be level with John Emburey on 64 tests, and Emburey is the only player who's played for that long to have worse batting and bowling averages. He'll go into a class of his own when he plays his 65th.

 

[Ali TT]

Heard a nice statistic today that Moeen would become statistically the worst all rounder of all time with 1 more test.

No non-wicketkeeper with 64+ tests in history will have a worse batting or bowling average than Moeen's 28.29 with the bat and 36.66 with the ball.

Every player in history with 64+ tests betters either his bat or bowling average.

More accurately he'll be the statistically worst all-rounder to play 64 or more tests. Plenty of worse ones who've played fewer tests.

 

[mackembhoy]

A monologue from Ben worth a read into his mindset.

Making Memories for England | By Ben Stokes

We have the belief that there isn’t any target or challenge that we can’t go after and overcome.

www.theplayerstribune.com

Pretty much echoes a lot of this interview with McCullum during the Ireland test.

 

[Burgey]

He penned it on the back of a beer coaster in Bristol before being taken into custody for affray