Official Pro-Wrestling Thread (WWE, TNA, ROH etc.)

[Agent TBY]

I think Orton was scheduled to take time off anyway. It's more a problem of the length now.

I'm stoked Edge got the W, another loss would've buried his credibility.

 

[sledger]

Really hoping they may be finally getting round to giving Y2J an angle, as he pretty much owned JBL last night and gave him a hell of a beat down if reports are to be believed. 2 weeks in a row this has happened now....wouldnt want to get my hopes up but its looking decent at this stage.

 

[Barney Rubble]

When was this "taker leaves if he loses" stipulation added? I can only assume that he is injured and will now go away for a few months to recover, and then show up as suggested around september (he damn well better, I ordered my Smackdown ticket to see him dammit!), very surprised that he lost, injured or not tbh, probs to him for taking such huge bumps tbh.

HBK losing is also the correct booking imo, just a shame that it was too Batista and not to Y2J, be interesting to see where that one goes next, and as cricman has said, this has made Batista look like a genuine world title challenger once again (even impressed me tbh, and I have been getting mega sick of him as of late).

Damn straight. The ONLY reason I would rather go to a SmackDown show than RAW is because 'Taker is my single favourite wrestler of all time - if I don't get to see him in London in November, I might have missed my last chance, and I'll be heartbroken.

While I'm here, the TLC Match was utterly fantastic, as expected from two of the most consistent and talented performers in the business right now. I'm not overly anxious to see what comes next for Edge - partly because I can't help thinking it'll be Batista. Only for a couple of PPVs though, just like last year - I reckon (and hope) we'll see 'Taker-Edge one more time at SummerSlam, in a Buried Alive Match. If not then, then possibly No Mercy or Survivor Series.

Oh, and sledger, I hate to burst your bubble, but Y2J didn't give JBL a beatdown, that was exactly the point. JBL got DQ'ed, was about to hit Jericho with a chair when Y2J reversed him and sent the chair into his throat. Y2J was then left holding the chair with JBL on the ground, but chose not to hit him. Made the crowd very unhappy indeed. Y2J did, however, say that he'll be defending his Intercontinental belt as often as possible from now on, which is a good way of establishing some more credibility for the belt. It seems as if they're setting Y2J up for a heel turn by having him act like an overly-whiter-than-white old-fashioned babyface, praising his opponents all the time and never doing anything illegal - obviously he's gonna snap at some point, it's just a matter of when.

 

[sledger]

I'm not overly anxious to see what comes next for Edge - partly because I can't help thinking it'll be Batista.

was thinking the exact same thing tbh. Though apparently Batista is also due to take a few months off, so maybe someone from RAW will be moving across to make a challenge.

 

[sledger]

Oh, and sledger, I hate to burst your bubble, but Y2J didn't give JBL a beatdown, that was exactly the point. JBL got DQ'ed, was about to hit Jericho with a chair when Y2J reversed him and sent the chair into his throat. Y2J was then left holding the chair with JBL on the ground, but chose not to hit him. Made the crowd very unhappy indeed. Y2J did, however, say that he'll be defending his Intercontinental belt as often as possible from now on, which is a good way of establishing some more credibility for the belt. It seems as if they're setting Y2J up for a heel turn by having him act like an overly-whiter-than-white old-fashioned babyface, praising his opponents all the time and never doing anything illegal - obviously he's gonna snap at some point, it's just a matter of when.

AAAAH crap goddammit!!! Well, at least he's coming out on top and not getting owned himself, thats something.

 

[Barney Rubble]

was thinking the exact same thing tbh. Though apparently Batista is also due to take a few months off, so maybe someone from RAW will be moving across to make a challenge.

I don't think Batista will get the time off he wants, now that Orton's crocked and 'Taker's out for a while - I doubt the company can afford to lose three potential main-eventers at once in the leadup to SummerSlam. Unless they're planning to *shock-horror* elevate some new talent!

 

[KMan71]

Would love to see Jericho on Smackdown, would be so awesome to see him live in November, that would probably make my year!

If he gets moved to Smackdown he may actually get some good angles and actually (dare I say it?) a legit challenge for a world title and maybe a run with it, that would be awesome, not only this, but Edge and la familia get so much Heat at the moment he would be the perfect face to go up against them, and is already over so the fans would love it.

would be delighted if vince reads this post by sledger hehe.

 

[KMan71]

maybe WWE decides to do something with dibiase jr. and cody rhodes and finally bring tag team championship wrestling back into the limelight...depends on how skilled dibiase jr. is...his mic work in his own words - priceless!

 

[sledger]

looking forward to seeing a bit more of di biase junior tbh.

 

[sledger]

I don't think Batista will get the time off he wants, now that Orton's crocked and 'Taker's out for a while - I doubt the company can afford to lose three potential main-eventers at once in the leadup to SummerSlam. Unless they're planning to *shock-horror* elevate some new talent!

haha chance would be a fine thing, like you say it looks very much like big daves holiday has been put on the backburner for the time being, and looks like another feud with Edge...though if he loses he never gets another title shot...lets hope for a repeat of last year.

 

[masterblaster]

haha chance would be a fine thing, like you say it looks very much like big daves holiday has been put on the backburner for the time being, and looks like another feud with Edge...though if he loses he never gets another title shot...lets hope for a repeat of last year.

I'm absolutely sick of Batista in the title picture and reading the Smackdown spoilers, it seems that we're going to get another month of Batista vs Edge for the World Title. Khali is back too this week and apparently he was a face and got a pop. His popularity in India seems to be rubbing off on American audiences.

 

[masterblaster]

Here's a recent TNA Conference Call with Booker T:

Booker T filled in for Kevin Nash this afternoon for TNA Wrestling's monthly media conference call. Here are some highlights:

- Michael Hayes' Racism: Booker laughed when the subject came up and said Hayes thinks he's black. "I don't look at Michael as a racist myself. I've heard him use the N-word before... He's one of the people who can use the word around me because I know there's no malice behind it."

- Working as a Heel: "Being the bad guy is just something that seems to fit my character at this stage of the game. It's great."

- Bobby Lashley: "I can't really say what Bobby is going to do (as far as pro wrestling)," Booker said. "I know MMA people are looking at him and Japan... I know TNA would have a spot for him." He said he hopes Lashley will come to him for advice. He said Bobby is in a good place mentally despite leaving WWE unexpectedly."

- Samoa Joe: "He is the future. No matter how you look at it, he is the future... He has a lot to learn, though." Booker said he was in the same boat when he went to WWE. "I think Joe is the perfect candidate to carry TNA to the next level."

- A TNA Developmental System: Booker said he is talking with TNA about using his wrestling school as a developmental territory for TNA. He said he wants to make sure he's going to be in TNA long-term before he commits to anything.

- Ultimate Warior in TNA: Booker laughed when Warrior's name came up and called him a "character". He said he would welcome Warrior him to the locker room if he joined TNA.

- The Internet: The internet is a double edged sword in Booker's mind. He said he doesn't like all the locker room talk, but he thinks wrestling needs to change and go along with the program.

- His Favorite TNA Match: Booker said he doesn't think he's been in his favorite TNA match yet. He liked working with Jay Lethal and he likes the Black Machismo character. "The best is totally yet to come for me here in TNA," Booker said.

- Retirement: He said his original plan was to retire at 40, but he got to 40 and he still felt good. He said TNA wants to keep him around. "I'll stick around for a little while," he said. He said he always wanted to have a match against Shawn Michaels, but he doesn't think that will happen.

- Ric Flair's Retirement: Booker raved about the Ric Flair's retirement angle. He said the time came for Flair to step into the next phase of life.

- First Coming to TNA: Booker T met with the TNA locker room when he first joined the company to let everyone know that he wasn't there to step on any toes. "It's not really about me," Booker said. "It's about them."

Booker T is a real class act and he's absolute gold when he's a heel. He's certainly made Impact a lot more enjoyable lately and it's good to see that he's not about power and ego and is willing to help the younger guys in TNA reach that next level.

 

[sledger]

haha I think the general opinion over Khali with a lot of fans is that he's so bad its actually funny, I find myself supporting him a lot of the time tbh, just because its a good laugh, much like the way I cheer on Viscera (not seen him for a while come to think about it...though I think I read something about him being sent away to lose weight).

I'm pretty sick of Batista as well, but I think I can put up with another month of him in the ME provided Edge wins...if not....then its just dire dire dire.

 

[sledger]

Booker T is a real class act and he's absolute gold when he's a heel. He's certainly made Impact a lot more enjoyable lately and it's good to see that he's not about power and ego and is willing to help the younger guys in TNA reach that next level.

Yeah, booker T is a class act no doubt, never really got the full recognition he deserved in WWE, probably a lot of that is down to the fact that he didnt get on with the likes of HHH and Batista, his attitude is a lot like that of Kurt Angle's tbh, they both want to help put over younger guys, which is great, because they have both had their time in the sun, and are now wanting to give something back. WWE, and the likes of HHH and HBK in particular should take note of this tbh, rather than sticking with their determination to create their own legacy.

 

[duffer]

Yeah, booker T is a class act no doubt, never really got the full recognition he deserved in WWE, probably a lot of that is down to the fact that he didnt get on with the likes of HHH and Batista, his attitude is a lot like that of Kurt Angle's tbh, they both want to help put over younger guys, which is great, because they have both had their time in the sun, and are now wanting to give something back. WWE, and the likes of HHH and HBK in particular should take note of this tbh, rather than sticking with their determination to create their own legacy.

Thing about Booker, he was his own man. He wasn't an ass-kisser and believed in himself and his work to get him over, which it did massively. Unfortunately this didn't sit well with certain people backstage and his career went the way of Jericho's. Still an illustrious career but definitely another "what if" story.

Would've been over to the moon if Trips had done what he was meant to do from a booking and moral point of view (Booker carried the feud, suffered racial abuse along the way). Ah, well, still love the guy and agree completely with mb with how good a heel he was. King Booker was one of the most hilarious things I've ever seen in wrestling and his tag-team days with Stevie Ray were just

EDIT: And just quietly, I quite like Khali. I know he's terrible in the ring but there have been many others as bad and a lot of the heat he gets is(I'm going to be controversial) racial. The number of Khali is a terrorist chants reported at house shows is disappointing for mine and underlines this but I guess I shouldn't expect any better from rednecks.

 

[sledger]

EDIT: And just quietly, I quite like Khali. I know he's terrible in the ring but there have been many others as bad and a lot of the heat he gets is(I'm going to be controversial) racial. The number of Khali is a terrorist chants reported at house shows is disappointing for mine and underlines this but I guess I shouldn't expect any better from rednecks.

Yeah indeed, I bet the E will try and work it into some sort of angle sooner or later if it keeps up. I remember they tried the same thing a few years back with Muhammed Hassan and got a series of guys wearing black veils to beat the crap out of the Undertaker....thing Smackdown nearly got pulled of fthe air that week...dire, esspecially seeing as Hassan was a pretty decent up and coming talent.

 

[duffer]

Yeah indeed, I bet the E will try and work it into some sort of angle sooner or later if it keeps up. I remember they tried the same thing a few years back with Muhammed Hassan and got a series of guys wearing black veils to beat the crap out of the Undertaker....thing Smackdown nearly got pulled of fthe air that week...dire, esspecially seeing as Hassan was a pretty decent up and coming talent.

Absolutely about Hassan, top quality in the promo and very smooth in the ring. Add to that the heat he got was absolutely real and unmatched in my time of watching WWE. Only the initial Vickie heat comes close.

Sad thing about him was that the E initially tried to push him as a face, as an American who's fighting for equal rights and opportunities in his own country but the fans were too stupid to see it and turned him heel almost immediately, although he made the most of it spectacularly.

They could've done something incredible with Hassan and Daivari where they made the public confront an issue very real and prevelant in the world but the people were too stupid and Vince went one step too far with that ridiculous beheading angle. One of my favourite characters of all time and for mine the biggest wasted opportunity for the WWE to do something different and worthwhile.

 

[Barney Rubble]

Just read the SD spoilers. Reads like an episode of iMPACT, FFS. Get it together, Creative.

 

[sledger]

Just read the SD spoilers. Reads like an episode of iMPACT, FFS. Get it together, Creative.

Lol I thought it looked ok tbh, though that said, having read it about an hour ago, I now can't remember much about it, so I guess it can't have been that great.

 

[sledger]

They could've done something incredible with Hassan and Daivari where they made the public confront an issue very real and prevelant in the world but the people were too stupid and Vince went one step too far with that ridiculous beheading angle. One of my favourite characters of all time and for mine the biggest wasted opportunity for the WWE to do something different and worthwhile.

I remember on RAW their credibility was also dealt a serious blow due to them being entered into an angle/feud with JR and King, whenever that happens you know are in trouble - see Helms, Gregory (another guy who has been used extremely badly come to think of it)