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Official Pro-Wrestling Thread (WWE, TNA, ROH etc.)

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Barney Rubble

International Coach
haha been meaning to ask for a while actually, whereabouts are your seats? Mine are on the middle tier looking towards the stage. Would be funny to stop for a chat or whatever.
Mine are actually scarily close to that, as it happens. :laugh:

http://www.eventtravel.com/cms/display_seatingplan.aspx?seatingplan_objid=252



Block 408, facing the stage. Right at the front of the upper tier of seats, literally the very first row, slightly to the right of centre in that picture. Me and one mate are there, and the other two mates I'm going with are five rows directly behind us.

I'll definitely give you a shout at some point - who are you going with? Depending on what I'm doing at uni that day we could easily go for a pint in London beforehand. We were contemplating going early to try and catch the wrestlers as they arrive, anyway. My mate Mark just wants to boo Batista in person. :laugh:
 
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sledger

Spanish_Vicente
Mine are actually scarily close to that, as it happens. :laugh:

http://www.eventtravel.com/cms/display_seatingplan.aspx?seatingplan_objid=252



Block 408, facing the stage. Right at the front of the upper tier of seats, literally the very first row, slightly to the right of centre in that picture. Me and one mate are there, and the other two mates I'm going with are five rows directly behind us.

I'll definitely give you a shout at some point - who are you going with? Depending on what I'm doing at uni that day we could easily go for a pint in London beforehand. We were contemplating going early to try and catch the wrestlers as they arrive, anyway. My mate Mark just wants to boo Batista in person. :laugh:
:laugh: I think I may actually be very very close to you indeed, I'ce got my tickets at home so i'll check the exact number when I get home.

I'm going with my Girlfriend (big undertaker mark, she has learned well) and a mate from School who like me has been a fan since the mid 90s.

Yeah a pint or something beforehand is good idea, i'd probably just miss my lectures of whatever that day unless they were in the morning, and head up to London around 2 or 3ish, we'll see nearer the time, but a meet up would be a good idea lol.

I would also like to Boo Batista in person, I have discussed this with chum (the one who's coming along) at length, also thought of making a sign, but decided against this. Quite interested to see how house shows are set up in comparison to a TV event actually, I imagine it will be much the same but with a smaller stage and no commentary desks? But either way, all i'm hoping for is a good night out really, looking forward to it a lot.
 

sledger

Spanish_Vicente
Maybe he'll try and attack us, like he did to that fan in the hammerstein ballroom who said something he didnt like :laugh:
 

Majin

International Debutant
Tell him to learn how to do a sitout powerbomb without botching it, that'd probably get him to try and have you. :D
 

Agent TBY

International Captain
Tell him to learn how to do a sitout powerbomb without botching it, that'd probably get him to try and have you. :D
Would probably end up botching it on purpose, and either Sledger or Matt will have to be content with the nickname of "the next Droz".
 

pinchy81

International Vice-Captain
Quite interested to see how house shows are set up in comparison to a TV event actually, I imagine it will be much the same but with a smaller stage and no commentary desks? But either way, all i'm hoping for is a good night out really, looking forward to it a lot.

House show is just like a TV event except no commentary your further away from the action and you can hear what the wrestlers and fans say pretty clearly
 

33/3from3.3

International Vice-Captain
Well, Smackdown/ECW are coming to Christchurch in two days. Yes, that means in 48 hours, (+ a few minutes) I will be able to give Botchtista a boo from CW. Got seats in the 14th row or something, so that shouldn't be bad.

I'll tell you guys how it went afterwards. :)
 

masterblaster

International Captain
A new book by Matthew Randazzo has been released called Ring of Hell which highlights the horrible, seedy underbelly that is Professional Wrestling.

If you all are wondering about Matthew Randazzo's credibility here are some quotes from Dave Meltzer, one of the premier pro wrestling insiders and journalists.

"The book was incredibly well-researched. ... His amount of research work was incredible."

"[Randazzo] was very well connected for many years, particularly on the inside of the WWE. Over the years, he gave me some tips on some breaking stories that, as best as I can recall, always turned out to be accurate ..."

"I can tell you, as far as inside sourcing goes, on the writing team he would be better suited to write this than all but a few people."

"I know of the guy and he is legit. For an outside to the industry, if that's the correct term, he seemed to have more access to inside info than all but a few people. No matter what the book says about this period, it's a viewpoint that should be looked at and thought about."

"You don't have to agree with it, but don't dismiss it because his name isn't someone who would be better known publicly."

"There will be criticism of the book. ... I didn't agree with every frame of reference, but the author did know and understand the subject and certainly had the right to the conclusions that he made."

"What will undoubtedly be the most talked about wrestling book of this year, Ring of Hell by Matthew Randazzo V ..."
 

masterblaster

International Captain
Some facts from the book Ring of Hell:

1. What life really was like at the New Japan dojo during the company's peak, including countless stories of outrageous hazing, violence, psychological torture, from anally raping trainees with bananas to pissing on their backs while they do pushups to ***ually molesting them in the showers to making them drink their own semen ...

2. The behind-the-scenes story on Kensuke Sasaki beating New Japan trainee Hiromitsu Gompei to death.

3. The most coherent and well-sourced profile of Antonio Inoki being completely ****ing nuts ever committed to print, including how Castro tricked him into buying a barren speck of sand with the promise of pirate treasure, which Inoki then named Inoki Friendship Island and immediately (allegedly) started hitting up his, um, financial backers for funding to launch search expeditions.

4. Stories about Riki Choshu & Masa Saito being completely hardass nuts Japanese crackers, including Masa Saito beating the **** out of Vader for telling him that "Vader calls the match, mother****er!", KOing him for real in the middle of the ring and having the referee count him out "1! YOU ***GOT! 2! YOU BIG PILE OF ****! 3! TOO FAT TO GET UP YOU BIG *****ASS *****?"

5. The de rigor stories about Benoit being a violent nut to trainees and Jushin Liger randomly punching rookies in the face for the **** of it.

6. The most in-depth, grisly, unbelievable behind-the-scenes expose of the role of the yakuza in Japanese pro wrestling and countless stories about them and Inoki, Benoit, Vader, etc.

WCW/ECW/WWE Wrestling Fruit Tidbits

1. Oh my god, Paul Heyman talks about his drug use (Against cocaine! Used GHB! Never was Marty Jannetty's dealer!)

2. The greatest catalogue ever of ECW/WCW backstage debauchery, including new Hall and Nash stories. Think the The Fall of WCW but, instead of focusing on buyrates and OMG JAY LEnO IS WRESTLECRAP!, it focuses on how many drugs and groupies were being abused and how absolutely insane everyone went.

3. The REAL story of the Kevin Sullivan vs. Radicalz brouhaha.

4. A previously unpublished story about how Bischoff started Nitro to avenge himself on a rib played against him by an unnamed, anonymous devilish promoter.

6. The bar-none most uncensored look at modern-day Vince McMahon, his outlandish behavior, and his bizarre relationship with Stephanie.

7. The first behind-the-scenes, uncensored, completely honest look at what it's like on the WWE Creative Team, including interviews from a half dozen former writers on the record including Heyman.

8. That longtime WWE Head Writer Dave Lagana fired in early 2008 for repeatedly extorting ***ual favors out of the wrestlers, male and female alike, with the alleged knowledge of WWE management -- a scandal that has been successfully kept from the press until now. Including the nipple-flicking details.

9. That Vince McMahon recently fired a heavily injured wrestler for seeking medical help -- calling him a "*****" who wasn't worthy of being a WWE wrestler and creating a neurotic fear of rehabilitating injuries within the WWE roster.

10. Some great McMahon family stories, including writer Dan Madigan driving in the McMahon limo and watching Vince very gently cradle and snuggle Stephanie to sleep in his arms, then fall snoringly asleep himself, only to catch HHH looking at them drool unto each other and snore into each other's faces with a mixture of utter repulsion and spectacular triumph.

11. Hey, did you know that multiple sources claim that Dean Malenko was allegedly Eddy's drug hookup? AFTER rehab and return? HOWBOUTDAT?

Benoit-Family Tidibts

1. An entire chapter ("Turd Polish") delving into what a magnificient piece of **** Kevin Sullivan was, including his carny secrets, how he used Nancy to get booking power, eyewitness stories of his druggy debauchery, how he beat Nancy, and how he crazily booked Nancy to cheat on him and then beat her until she finally decided to actually cheat on him.

2. Publisher PR. "Despite regularly passing "comprehensive" World Wrestling Entertainment drug tests, Chris Benoit's psychological meltdown was partially caused by an enormous drug habit that he maintained for the majority of his WWE tenure. On a daily basis, Benoit haphazardly mixed huge dosages of amphetamines, steroids, painkillers, psychiatric drugs, and alcohol -- with catastrophic effect on his psyche."

3. PR: "Chris Benoit had displayed dangerously violent and sadistic behavior as early as 1987, and over the next twenty years he was involved in countless incidents of cruelty and extreme hazing of younger wrestlers. "

4. Sullivan booking era, "In 2000, Chris Benoit threatened his bosses in Ted Turner's World Championship Wrestling with the promise that he would mutilate himself on live television if he was forced to go through a storyline he didn't like." Story in detail, obviously.

5. The gritty details about Benoit being a drug addicted lunatic.

6. Probably the only honest psychological profile of Benoit published, speaking in detail just how much of a selfish, misguided, utterly cruel and ridiculous man he always was and how his choice of lifestyle indicted him from the beginning.


Some of that is just messed up! If some of it is true then I refuse to look at pro wrestling the way I did before. Randazzo obviously has some degree of credibility, being one of Meltzer's main sources for a long time. Either way, I'd me most interested to pick this new book up.
 

duffer

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Some facts from the book Ring of Hell:

1. What life really was like at the New Japan dojo during the company's peak, including countless stories of outrageous hazing, violence, psychological torture, from anally raping trainees with bananas to pissing on their backs while they do pushups to ***ually molesting them in the showers to making them drink their own semen ...

2. The behind-the-scenes story on Kensuke Sasaki beating New Japan trainee Hiromitsu Gompei to death.

3. The most coherent and well-sourced profile of Antonio Inoki being completely ****ing nuts ever committed to print, including how Castro tricked him into buying a barren speck of sand with the promise of pirate treasure, which Inoki then named Inoki Friendship Island and immediately (allegedly) started hitting up his, um, financial backers for funding to launch search expeditions.

4. Stories about Riki Choshu & Masa Saito being completely hardass nuts Japanese crackers, including Masa Saito beating the **** out of Vader for telling him that "Vader calls the match, mother****er!", KOing him for real in the middle of the ring and having the referee count him out "1! YOU ***GOT! 2! YOU BIG PILE OF ****! 3! TOO FAT TO GET UP YOU BIG *****ASS *****?"

5. The de rigor stories about Benoit being a violent nut to trainees and Jushin Liger randomly punching rookies in the face for the **** of it.

6. The most in-depth, grisly, unbelievable behind-the-scenes expose of the role of the yakuza in Japanese pro wrestling and countless stories about them and Inoki, Benoit, Vader, etc.

WCW/ECW/WWE Wrestling Fruit Tidbits

1. Oh my god, Paul Heyman talks about his drug use (Against cocaine! Used GHB! Never was Marty Jannetty's dealer!)

2. The greatest catalogue ever of ECW/WCW backstage debauchery, including new Hall and Nash stories. Think the The Fall of WCW but, instead of focusing on buyrates and OMG JAY LEnO IS WRESTLECRAP!, it focuses on how many drugs and groupies were being abused and how absolutely insane everyone went.

3. The REAL story of the Kevin Sullivan vs. Radicalz brouhaha.

4. A previously unpublished story about how Bischoff started Nitro to avenge himself on a rib played against him by an unnamed, anonymous devilish promoter.

6. The bar-none most uncensored look at modern-day Vince McMahon, his outlandish behavior, and his bizarre relationship with Stephanie.

7. The first behind-the-scenes, uncensored, completely honest look at what it's like on the WWE Creative Team, including interviews from a half dozen former writers on the record including Heyman.

8. That longtime WWE Head Writer Dave Lagana fired in early 2008 for repeatedly extorting ***ual favors out of the wrestlers, male and female alike, with the alleged knowledge of WWE management -- a scandal that has been successfully kept from the press until now. Including the nipple-flicking details.

9. That Vince McMahon recently fired a heavily injured wrestler for seeking medical help -- calling him a "*****" who wasn't worthy of being a WWE wrestler and creating a neurotic fear of rehabilitating injuries within the WWE roster.

10. Some great McMahon family stories, including writer Dan Madigan driving in the McMahon limo and watching Vince very gently cradle and snuggle Stephanie to sleep in his arms, then fall snoringly asleep himself, only to catch HHH looking at them drool unto each other and snore into each other's faces with a mixture of utter repulsion and spectacular triumph.

11. Hey, did you know that multiple sources claim that Dean Malenko was allegedly Eddy's drug hookup? AFTER rehab and return? HOWBOUTDAT?

Benoit-Family Tidibts

1. An entire chapter ("Turd Polish") delving into what a magnificient piece of **** Kevin Sullivan was, including his carny secrets, how he used Nancy to get booking power, eyewitness stories of his druggy debauchery, how he beat Nancy, and how he crazily booked Nancy to cheat on him and then beat her until she finally decided to actually cheat on him.

2. Publisher PR. "Despite regularly passing "comprehensive" World Wrestling Entertainment drug tests, Chris Benoit's psychological meltdown was partially caused by an enormous drug habit that he maintained for the majority of his WWE tenure. On a daily basis, Benoit haphazardly mixed huge dosages of amphetamines, steroids, painkillers, psychiatric drugs, and alcohol -- with catastrophic effect on his psyche."

3. PR: "Chris Benoit had displayed dangerously violent and sadistic behavior as early as 1987, and over the next twenty years he was involved in countless incidents of cruelty and extreme hazing of younger wrestlers. "

4. Sullivan booking era, "In 2000, Chris Benoit threatened his bosses in Ted Turner's World Championship Wrestling with the promise that he would mutilate himself on live television if he was forced to go through a storyline he didn't like." Story in detail, obviously.

5. The gritty details about Benoit being a drug addicted lunatic.

6. Probably the only honest psychological profile of Benoit published, speaking in detail just how much of a selfish, misguided, utterly cruel and ridiculous man he always was and how his choice of lifestyle indicted him from the beginning.


Some of that is just messed up! If some of it is true then I refuse to look at pro wrestling the way I did before. Randazzo obviously has some degree of credibility, being one of Meltzer's main sources for a long time. Either way, I'd me most interested to pick this new book up.
Sadly none of that really surprises me. I've heard some other horrific stories of hazing and what not in wrestling and always knew that the mental health of people who roid up and live the lifestyle these guys do cannot be right.

The McMahon family has always struck me as ****ed up, not surprised reading that **** either.

Would the book be available in Aus, I'd love to read it. Might just order it online.
 

duffer

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Well, Smackdown/ECW are coming to Christchurch in two days. Yes, that means in 48 hours, (+ a few minutes) I will be able to give Botchtista a boo from CW. Got seats in the 14th row or something, so that shouldn't be bad.

I'll tell you guys how it went afterwards. :)
All you guys who are going to the house shows enjoy yourself and take pics, they always pack them with great spots.

Be careful about what signs you bring in. At the Syndey house show they were particularly Nazi about them, my mate got his "Trips fears divorce" sign confiscated for some reason but let a "Chavo mows my lawn" sign go through :huh:
 

masterblaster

International Captain
Sadly none of that really surprises me. I've heard some other horrific stories of hazing and what not in wrestling and always knew that the mental health of people who roid up and live the lifestyle these guys do cannot be right.

The McMahon family has always struck me as ****ed up, not surprised reading that **** either.

Would the book be available in Aus, I'd love to read it. Might just order it online.
I'd love to be able to read it too. Don't know if it's available here in Australia yet, but Amazon have it for USD $17.95. With the great exchange rates at the moment it's a pretty good bargain.
 

duffer

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
I'd love to be able to read it too. Don't know if it's available here in Australia yet, but Amazon have it for USD $17.95. With the great exchange rates at the moment it's a pretty good bargain.
Yeah it looks really interesting, always wondered about the Japanese wrestling scene and thought that the stuff they pulled in the ring was ridiculously ****ed up. Knew there had to be some deranged people working in that scene.

The Benoit stuff and the WWE writing stuff will probably sell most copies of the book, but for me the Dave Lagan stuff and the Dean Malenko feeding Eddie's addiciton stuff is what gets me most. Both people talk as if they're whiter than white but all the while were just big scum****s.

I wonder if it covers any of the stuff that Trish Stratus and other diva's have had to go through by being involved in such a seedy business. Hell, mainstream people probably have more respect for the porn industry than the WWE these days and books like this would go a long way to confirming their beliefs.
 

masterblaster

International Captain
Yeah it looks really interesting, always wondered about the Japanese wrestling scene and thought that the stuff they pulled in the ring was ridiculously ****ed up. Knew there had to be some deranged people working in that scene.

The Benoit stuff and the WWE writing stuff will probably sell most copies of the book, but for me the Dave Lagan stuff and the Dean Malenko feeding Eddie's addiciton stuff is what gets me most. Both people talk as if they're whiter than white but all the while were just big scum****s.

I wonder if it covers any of the stuff that Trish Stratus and other diva's have had to go through by being involved in such a seedy business. Hell, mainstream people probably have more respect for the porn industry than the WWE these days and books like this would go a long way to confirming their beliefs.
Won't ever look at Japanese wrestling or Dean Malenko the same way ever again. Wrestling is filled with seedy characters. The book does mention Michelle McCool quite extensively. Apparently she was having an affair with Benoit, but was angry that Benoit would not leave his wife. She since has broken the marriage of The Undertaker as Taker has left his wife and has been in a relationship with McCool for a long time.

McCool also apparently became a 'favourite' for the older, veterans (take from that what you will) and apparently has a serious eating disorder and drug addiction.
 

masterblaster

International Captain
Well, Smackdown/ECW are coming to Christchurch in two days. Yes, that means in 48 hours, (+ a few minutes) I will be able to give Botchtista a boo from CW. Got seats in the 14th row or something, so that shouldn't be bad.

I'll tell you guys how it went afterwards. :)
Have a good time mate. Never been to a live wrestling event before so hopefully you have a good review of the night to tell us.
 
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