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Official Pro-Wrestling Thread (WWE, TNA, ROH etc.)

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GIMH

Norwood's on Fire
I would shout at you for spoilers, but it's TNA so I don't care. Jeff, yuck, makes me feel like I want to watch
 

GIMH

Norwood's on Fire
Apparently the first five minutes is must watch. Meh. Sky+ing Raw tonight, will d/l Impact in the morning. Going the game tomorrow night so will only have time for Raw, Impact on Wed I guess.
 

masterblaster

International Captain
Watching Raw right now and after having read the spoilers I think Raw seems to have been the better show. Impact seemed like a mess again and reading the spoilers doesn't really make me want to watch the show. RVD winning with the rolling thunder is ridiculous and why Jeff Hardy would want to give up that million dollar push in WWE and head to TNA is beyond me.

I will say though that Undertaker is terrible on the mic. In this current gimmick his mic work is so boring whereas during his American Badass persona I remember him being quite natural and entertaining on the mic. The opening segment was brutal until Shawn Michaels came in and injected a much needed dose of charisma.

I really somehow hope Shawn wins. The streak is overrated and it'll be a bigger loss to see Shawn Michaels retire than to see Undertaker lose his streak. Either way, I'm excited about Wrestlemania as it's seeming like one of the best Wrestlemania PPV's in a long time.
 

duffer

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
The whole point of the feud is to build it up that Shawn can do it and then see him do the job in another ding dong match. Personally think the streak should be kept sacred and that's the way they're going.

Also, Batista as a heel is winning me over. His feud with Cena is surprisingly strong right now. Should sell big.
 

sledger

Spanish_Vicente
Yeah Heel Batista > Face Batista by so much.

TNA from last night sounds quite amusing but also pretty dumb, Hogan just bleeding all over the place with a load of mayhem booking thrown in around it. RVD having a match which lasted about 10 seconds by the sounds of things suggests that he isn't really signed up on any long term basis at all, **** knows what they were doing with that match. Way to debut a new star, have him come out, completely own one of your franchise players and then have him given an insane beatdown and not show up again all night...yes....
 

sledger

Spanish_Vicente
Last night's edition of WWE Monday Night RAW scored a 3.4 cable rating.

Last night's edition of TNA iMPACT! scored a 1.0 cable rating.

Both shows were way down this week. More shortly.

It's obviously going to be tough for TNA iMPACT! next week as they're running a taped show head-to-head with the return of Steve Austin and three WrestleMania rematches. They also face a Bret Hart-Vince McMahon contract signing.
Nothing earth moving there really...will be interesting to see how much of a hit TNA takes next week.
 

masterblaster

International Captain
NXT was awesome tonight and I think the dynamic between Daniel Bryan and The Miz just makes for some really compelling television. These two guys were awesome again and I can't wait for a United States Championship match between the two down the road. Credit to the WWE for putting Bryan and The Miz as the Rookie and Mentor. It's added so much to the show. Justin Gabriel looks like a star too and it's good to see a South African make his way to WWE.
 

Manee

Cricketer Of The Year
TNA Impact's second foray into monday nights was solid, but tbh, they really wasted RVD, Jeff Hardy and Sting. The amateurish booking is starting to get to me.

Raw was average too, tbh. NXT on the other hand was compelling TV and Bryan is impressing me more in the ring, each week.
 

King Pietersen

International Captain
Managed to catch abit of NXT the other night. Danielson's promo before his match was pretty decent, but from there onwards it was pretty poor. I hate Wade Barrett's character. The "British bare-knuckle fighting champion" part was laughable. The match was pretty disappointing too, just saw Danielson getting squashed again. Wasn't sure whether the botch was intentional either, but it was a pretty strange way to end a match. The match before that was worse though, with Punk's Pro Darren Young against David Otunga IIRC, both looked pretty uncomfortable in there, and Young's finisher looked pretty poorly performed. I hope I just saw a particularly poor section of the show, because if it doesn't get any better than that, then it's barely watchable.
 

Manee

Cricketer Of The Year
Managed to catch abit of NXT the other night. Danielson's promo before his match was pretty decent, but from there onwards it was pretty poor. I hate Wade Barrett's character. The "British bare-knuckle fighting champion" part was laughable. The match was pretty disappointing too, just saw Danielson getting squashed again. Wasn't sure whether the botch was intentional either, but it was a pretty strange way to end a match. The match before that was worse though, with Punk's Pro Darren Young against David Otunga IIRC, both looked pretty uncomfortable in there, and Young's finisher looked pretty poorly performed. I hope I just saw a particularly poor section of the show, because if it doesn't get any better than that, then it's barely watchable.
Last week was a poor show, but this week wasn't too bad.
 

GIMH

Norwood's on Fire
Just caught up on all three shows, you may be surprised by some of my thoughts:

Raw: Nothing much to see from an in-ring POV aside from a very good Legacy match. At this time of year I don't need much in the way of matches. Some silliness and overbooking in the main event but I didn't mind it too much. Absolutely AWESOME work from Undertaker and Shawn though. The dynamic is fantastic, the way Taker was furiously pacing round the ring, by his standards, how often do we see that? Shawn is in his head. It's great stuff.

Triple H was on fantastic form as well, he cut an amazing promo that people will no doubt ignore because it's Triple H. I reckon he'll put Sheamus over huge at Mania, not necessarily lie down for him but make him look awesome. And I SO wasn't expecting the Mania 12 reference.

The booking for the tag title match was very clever as well. Not a classic Raw but once again exactly as was needed at this point.

Impact: IMO a lot better than it has been, and a lot better than the general feeling in this thread. RVD squashing Sting made sense because he attacked him from behind. Nothing wrong with that. Didn't like the beatdown so much though.

The Hogan/Flair stuff was a lot better than I expected, Flair is still the master bumper even if I wish he wasn't out there, and his promo was off the charts. Hogan should never get in a ring though. Obviously I am delighted to see Jeff on TV again, I am puzzled why he wanted to go there but it's enough to get me to tune in again next week.

X division match was good, Shannon Moore is irrelevant. Angle-Anderson segment bored me but that may be because I am not American. Jarrett's storyline is turd, I hate it, same goes for Foley.

Scott Hall must die.

All in all I thought they put on a highly watchable one-off show, with little to separate it and Raw BUT there was nothing in the way of long-term booking, nothing that gets me 'emotionally invested' like numerous WWE feuds have at the minute - except perhaps Jeff who is one of my favourite wrestlers around.

NXT: Top, absolutely epic. Best wrestling show on TV at the minute. So many different pro-rookie dynamics, every pairing has been really well thought out. Jericho-Barrett fit just fine, Miz-Bryan's clash is epic, I could go on but yeah, NXT rules.
 

GIMH

Norwood's on Fire
Managed to catch abit of NXT the other night. Danielson's promo before his match was pretty decent, but from there onwards it was pretty poor. I hate Wade Barrett's character. The "British bare-knuckle fighting champion" part was laughable. The match was pretty disappointing too, just saw Danielson getting squashed again. Wasn't sure whether the botch was intentional either, but it was a pretty strange way to end a match. The match before that was worse though, with Punk's Pro Darren Young against David Otunga IIRC, both looked pretty uncomfortable in there, and Young's finisher looked pretty poorly performed. I hope I just saw a particularly poor section of the show, because if it doesn't get any better than that, then it's barely watchable.
Last week was a poor show, but this week wasn't too bad.
You guys are crazy, last week's was great. Every week it has been great.

Wade Barrett's character fits perfectly for someone being mentored by Jericho. Don't really have a problem with the bare knuckle thing, it's not like it can be disproven because obviously you don't actually have an official champion in that, but he is undisputably a hard bastard so that sort of gimmick makes sense. Hard as nails but Jerichoesque in character - it's different from what we normally get fed for guys of his size, and he can go in the ring as well.

I don't know what you're on with the 'Danielson getting squashed again' comment either.

1 - He didn't get squashed by Jericho, he went seven minutes with the world champion in his WWE debut and got in plenty of offence. That's not a squash.

2 - To call his defeat to Barrett a squash is just to take it completely out of context as well. He took a bump from hell against Jericho, his ribs were visibly still legit hurt and he was selling them. Miz attacked them before the match. For him to win that match would have been a complete burial for whoever his opponent was (and I do not use that term lightly). The whole thing made complete sense from a storytelling POV.

I didn't think Young and Otunga was too bad, agree the finisher was delivered poorly, thought it was a decent match with interesting dynamics between both sets of pros and rookies.

All in all the concept is great, all three shows have been great and I'd say a fair few of the rookies are already over. Danielson is getting face pops, Barrett is getting heat, Gabriel seems to be getting cheered a does Slater. Otunga is getting a bit of heat as well.

It's going well. Each to their own, obviously, but I just take exception to the 'Danielson getting squashed again' comment because nothing could be further from the truth.
 

masterblaster

International Captain
You guys are crazy, last week's was great. Every week it has been great.

Wade Barrett's character fits perfectly for someone being mentored by Jericho. Don't really have a problem with the bare knuckle thing, it's not like it can be disproven because obviously you don't actually have an official champion in that, but he is undisputably a hard bastard so that sort of gimmick makes sense. Hard as nails but Jerichoesque in character - it's different from what we normally get fed for guys of his size, and he can go in the ring as well.

I don't know what you're on with the 'Danielson getting squashed again' comment either.

1 - He didn't get squashed by Jericho, he went seven minutes with the world champion in his WWE debut and got in plenty of offence. That's not a squash.

2 - To call his defeat to Barrett a squash is just to take it completely out of context as well. He took a bump from hell against Jericho, his ribs were visibly still legit hurt and he was selling them. Miz attacked them before the match. For him to win that match would have been a complete burial for whoever his opponent was (and I do not use that term lightly). The whole thing made complete sense from a storytelling POV.

I didn't think Young and Otunga was too bad, agree the finisher was delivered poorly, thought it was a decent match with interesting dynamics between both sets of pros and rookies.

All in all the concept is great, all three shows have been great and I'd say a fair few of the rookies are already over. Danielson is getting face pops, Barrett is getting heat, Gabriel seems to be getting cheered a does Slater. Otunga is getting a bit of heat as well.

It's going well. Each to their own, obviously, but I just take exception to the 'Danielson getting squashed again' comment because nothing could be further from the truth.
Completely agree! Daniel Bryan has been the star of the show. Even this week the team of The Miz and Daniel Bryan lost, but it was clearly The Miz's fault as to why they did. The main thing is there is a reason why he has been losing, this is to build up the tension between The Miz and Daniel Bryan. The tension between them was off the charts this week and the dynamic between them adds so much to the show.

The great thing about NXT as you say is that mostly everyone is getting over, which is what you want from a show like this. Wade Barrett, Daniel Bryan, Heath Slater, David Otunga and Justin Gabriel are all stars already. NXT has done in 3 weeks what ECW couldn't do in 3 years and that's get new talent on TV and make them connect with the audience.

I agree with you in that NXT is the best wrestling show on television right now. I really don't know what the other posters were saying in regards to Daniel Bryan getting squashed and the other young guys getting buried. It sounded to me like he didn't actually watch the show, but just read the spoilers.
 
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