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[King Pietersen]

Horace Hogan tbh.

Is Scott Steiner still in TNA? He was one of the few genuinely entertaining guys on the roster when I was watching. Once his back problems started to calm down his matches rapidly improved as well. Actually saw him pull off the Frankensteiner a few times. His Promo's are still unmatched I think, not because he's a great talker like a Jericho or a Rock, but because he's just so bad that it's hilarious. Some great youtube videos of some Steiner promos, he's brilliant.

I hate the way TNA's gone. Had so much potential around the time Angle joined. The X Division were putting on some of the most entertaining matches I'd seen for a long, long time with some epic battles between AJ, Daniels and Joe. Hardy's first spell in TNA was also mega entertaining, with some great matches against Abyss and the like. It just doesn't seem to have kicked on. There don't appear to be anymore Main Eventers than when I stopped watching. Petey Williams had massive potential, Matt Morgan could have been big, Robert Roode should be main eventing (although if Beer Money weren't around the Tag Division would lose alot of quality) and Kaz could have been awesome if he was given more chances and not stuck under the Suicide mask, although I did really enjoy the character at the start of it's lifespan. They just seem to be going nowhere, and I don't see them lasting much longer. Just hope that AJ, Daniels, Joe, Sabin, Shelley, Morgan, Roode, Kaz, Storm, Hernandez and the rest of the genuine talent go on to be big stars in the 'E, but that's unlikely, I doubt AJ, Daniels and Joe will ever join the 'E.

 

[GIMH]

I'm still hopeful that Joe will find his way to the E, sort of guy Vince would love I reckon. Not so sure on AJ, I think he's great but is he too small? Didn't stop Jeff getting over massively but god knows it took him long enough.

That being said, I think you're being a bit hasty. I've got no doubt that Vince will own the TNA tape library a decade from now but I don't think it will decline in the next couple of years.

 

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I'm still hopeful that Joe will find his way to the E, sort of guy Vince would love I reckon. Not so sure on AJ, I think he's great but is he too small? Didn't stop Jeff getting over massively but god knows it took him long enough.

That being said, I think you're being a bit hasty. I've got no doubt that Vince will own the TNA tape library a decade from now but I don't think it will decline in the next couple of years.

Dunno, neither AJ or Joe did enough to impress Vince first time around, I wouldn't have thought a great deal will have changed in his eyes between now and then. If either of them did make the jump to the E at any point they would almost certainly be left to languish in the midcard and beaten by HHH a few times.I've never been a great fan of either of them come to think of it, would rather have seen Sting make an appearance in WWE than either of them.

 

[GIMH]

Joe's never been in the E? And Styles turned down the developmental contract they offered him.

Would rather see them there than Sting now, he's way past it

 

[duffer]

Scott Hall as the Razor was pure awesomeness. Had an incredible feud and payoff Rumble match with Bret. As a kid I really hated the guy so much, such an impressive asshole heel. My favourite Kliq member by far.

 

[GIMH]

Scott Hall as the Razor was pure awesomeness. Had an incredible feud and payoff Rumble match with Bret. As a kid I really hated the guy so much, such an impressive asshole heel. My favourite Kliq member by far.

Good match yea, although I'd say their KOTR 93 effort was better

 

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Joe's never been in the E? And Styles turned down the developmental contract they offered him.

Would rather see them there than Sting now, he's way past it

YouTube - Essa Rios VS Samoa Joe

Granted Joe was probably just a local jobber at this point.

 

[GIMH]

Ah I stand corrected.

Still, Vince has changed his mind on people before. Joe is just the sort of wrestler he'd normally go crazy for as well. And TNA are booking him like idiots (no surprises there).

 

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According to a source within TNA, Scott Hall is saying he has a groin injury and that's why he won't wrestle tonight at Genesis. However, in reality, Hall recently put on trunks for the first time in a long time and was concerned that his body did not appear to be in ring shape. Therefore, when Hall begged to be taken off the card, Sean Waltman was put in the tag match with Nash for tonight, but even Waltman is said to be begging off the card as well. It is not known at this time why Waltman feels uncomfortable wrestling, so as a precaution, Eric Young will be at the pay-per-view and will serve as Nash's partner if Waltman no-shows or is "unable" to wrestle.

Despite reported TNA satisfaction with Hall and Waltman, both are said to be constantly wrecked on pills and will not last long. Nash did not vouch for Hall and Waltman prior to or at the beginning of their employment by TNA, and has made it very plain that they are not his responsibility, so there is no heat on Nash as far as TNA management is concerned.

Bloody Hell, what a state of affairs, who the hell gave their comeback the greenlight.

The PPV from last night sounds quite amusing though, Hogan getting loads of boos for wanting to get rid of the 6 sided ring.

 

[GIMH]

He didn't just want to get rid of it, it's gone. Well done TNA, USP out the window, very clever.

That company is an abomination under Hogan, it offers nothing.

 

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He didn't just want to get rid of it, it's gone. Well done TNA, USP out the window, very clever.

That company is an abomination under Hogan, it offers nothing.

Haha really? Didn't realise it had actually been abolished already. Not sure what I make of that tbh, I was never a fan of the 6 sided ring and it always struck me as a stupid gimmick to make them different from the E. That said, the fact that they have just abandoned it at the drop of the hat makes their entire promotion look stupid.

Clearly teasing at Angle vs Flair somewhere along the line, and I for one just really cba with it. This is something I wouldn't have minded seeing a few years back maybe, or even maybe now if these two were both in WWE. Like you, seeing Flair in TNA is just beginning to **** me, after the way the E did a send off for him after his HBK match I would have thought he would have more class/sense to get involved with this crap, must be strapped for cash or something.

 

[masterblaster]

This Hogan takeover of TNA has been nohting but crap. Nasty Boys? Scott Hall? Sean Waltman? Really? Are these the people you are bringing in?

I feel sorry for the very talented Motor City Machine Guns, Christopher Daniels and Amazing Red. I hate the idea that they have gone back to the 4 sided ring.

Am I watching WCW or TNA? This is ridiculous. As for Scott Steiner he hates Hulk Hogan and Ric Flair, so I'm not surprised that he's off TV. They botched Jeff Hardy's TV debut, Ric Flair seemed like he didn't matter and AJ Styles is turning heel.

This is absolutely ridiculous. At this rate either TNA collapses after producing a year of terrible television or Hulk Hogan gets bored and leaves. I preferred TNA under the control of Jeff Jarrett. At least there was quality and an emphasis on the younger guys.

 

[Majin]

Just read this weeks Impact tapings report as well, sounds like an absolutely horrible show. Really really poor. A shame.

 

[GIMH]

This Hogan takeover of TNA has been nohting but crap. Nasty Boys? Scott Hall? Sean Waltman? Really? Are these the people you are bringing in?

I feel sorry for the very talented Motor City Machine Guns, Christopher Daniels and Amazing Red. I hate the idea that they have gone back to the 4 sided ring.

Am I watching WCW or TNA? This is ridiculous. As for Scott Steiner he hates Hulk Hogan and Ric Flair, so I'm not surprised that he's off TV. They botched Jeff Hardy's TV debut, Ric Flair seemed like he didn't matter and AJ Styles is turning heel.

This is absolutely ridiculous. At this rate either TNA collapses after producing a year of terrible television or Hulk Hogan gets bored and leaves. I preferred TNA under the control of Jeff Jarrett. At least there was quality and an emphasis on the younger guys.

Haven't seen you around much lately mate, we've certainly missed you in this thread

You've summed up my thoughts on TNA's last couple of weeks perfectly. I agree with every word.

And by the way everyone, Ken Anderson and 'The' Brian Kendrick. The worst big surprises ever? What a crock of ****.

Raw was pretty mundane this week, but the Rumble has an interesting subplot going into it. I think we will see either Cena or Shawn face Taker, if it's Cena then we'll see Triple H-Shawn, with a feud kicking into gear at the Rumble. One way or another the big gold belt is getting centre stage at this one, which is good because I like it better than the WWE title. Not sure where that one's heading, it would seem too soon for Dibiase-Orton but I can't think who else Orton will face, and he looks like he'll be champion.

Of course, all of this assumes the rumours of Edge not being fit in time are true. If he is and we get Edge-Jericho, this could be an awesome Mania, especially when you throw in all the Bret-Vince stuff (though I hope that will somehow involve Jericho and Edge tbh).

 

[masterblaster]

Haven't seen you around much lately mate, we've certainly missed you in this thread

You've summed up my thoughts on TNA's last couple of weeks perfectly. I agree with every word.

And by the way everyone, Ken Anderson and 'The' Brian Kendrick. The worst big surprises ever? What a crock of ****.

Raw was pretty mundane this week, but the Rumble has an interesting subplot going into it. I think we will see either Cena or Shawn face Taker, if it's Cena then we'll see Triple H-Shawn, with a feud kicking into gear at the Rumble. One way or another the big gold belt is getting centre stage at this one, which is good because I like it better than the WWE title. Not sure where that one's heading, it would seem too soon for Dibiase-Orton but I can't think who else Orton will face, and he looks like he'll be champion.

Of course, all of this assumes the rumours of Edge not being fit in time are true. If he is and we get Edge-Jericho, this could be an awesome Mania, especially when you throw in all the Bret-Vince stuff (though I hope that will somehow involve Jericho and Edge tbh).

Cheers mate, appreciate the kind words. I was on holidays, travelling to India and Singapore during the Christmas and New Year period which was fantastic so I wasn't really following wrestling that much other than through the internet.

I came back home to Melbourne only for about a week before I had to head off for US/Canada for a business trip. I'm currently in Chicago at the moment but I have to go to Calgary and Edmonton soon after this.

Watched Raw live yesterday as my hotel has USA Network and was pretty disappointed. Raw has been really bland and I'm one of those people who have grown really tired of DX, especially with Hornswaggle.

How other stars have gotten released and Hornswaggle has kept his job is beyond me. The guest host formula is wearing thin as well. It'll be good when Steve Austin and The Rock come in and bring in some excitement.

For the Royal Rumble I'd hate it to be Triple H, John Cena or Shawn Michaels. They have to have somebody fresh win. A few months ago with the momentum he had, I would've given it to CM Punk but they've pretty much got him in the mid card. Kofi Kingston too was an outside chance for a while, but his push has disappeared as has Jack Swagger's and John Morrison's.

The Miz could be a great candidate to step up and win. The Miz is over and ready to take the next step. He could be a huge star. It would make sense for him to lose his United States Championship to MVP at the Royal Rumble and having him appear and maybe even win. I'd love to see John Cena vs The Miz or Randy Orton vs The Miz as it'd be a fresh match up.

But for me if Edge is fit, he has to win and face Chris Jericho at Wrestlemania. If this means Rey Mysterio defeating Undertaker at Royal Rumble and then Chris Jericho winning the World Championship at Elimination Chamber, then so be it. Edge vs Chris Jericho for the World Championship at Wrestlemania would be so awesome.

On the TNA side of things, I read the spoilers too for the upcoming Impact and it looks terrible. Some of the creative decisions being made are questionable. Eric Bischoff gets rid of Jeremy Borash as an interviewer because he doesn't like him? That's simply unprofessional and a disgrace. Jeremy Borash was one of the best things TNA had going mainly because of his interview skills and presence backstage. He was entertaining and had a real passion for TNA as well.

I used to be a big supporter of TNA because they were the little group I wanted to see succeed. But now with Hulk Hogan and Eric Bischoff in charge, I'm being driven away. Problem is WWE isn't that great either and is just so stagnant with hardly anything interesting going on. Both companies are garbage and the old hangers on like Hulk Hogan, Scott Hall, Sean Waltman, Triple H and Ric Flair just won't go away and let other people step up and become stars.

 

[duffer]

The opening segment to RAW was stellar. I sort of wished I'd cut my losses and switched off straight afterwards though. Vince finally delivered an excellent promo and Taker coming in and going head to head with him was awesome. I like how they're building the feud without having to rely on Bret's mic skills which were always his main weakness. Just felt real and appropriate the way it was handled.

Completely and utterly hate the idea that one of three already perma over stars will win the Rumble. It used to be the ultimate springboard for upper mid card talent to get themselves into the stratosphere or a chance for a major face turn from a former top heel. There just seems to be no breakthrough element to this year's build and I barely care for it especially if one of the dreaded three mentioned wins it. One feud promotion for me right now, but at least that's more than TNA can offer.

 

[GIMH]

The opening segment to RAW was stellar. I sort of wished I'd cut my losses and switched off straight afterwards though. Vince finally delivered an excellent promo and Taker coming in and going head to head with him was awesome. I like how they're building the feud without having to rely on Bret's mic skills which were always his main weakness. Just felt real and appropriate the way it was handled.

Completely and utterly hate the idea that one of three already perma over stars will win the Rumble. It used to be the ultimate springboard for upper mid card talent to get themselves into the stratosphere or a chance for a major face turn from a former top heel. There just seems to be no breakthrough element to this year's build and I barely care for it especially if one of the dreaded three mentioned wins it. One feud promotion for me right now, but at least that's more than TNA can offer.

Hmm, only occasionally really though. Hogan won it in 90 and 91, Flair in 92, Hart co-won it in 94 having already been champion. Michaels and Austin are the only guys I'd say that were in this midcard and went on to win it as Yoko was clearly in a monster push when he won in 93 - and Michaels and Austin both went on to win it again (twice more in Austin's case).

 

[masterblaster]

I have no idea who's going to win it this year, as long as it's not one of the big three then it's okay. I'm just hoping Edge is fit enough to return by the Royal Rumble, because surely Edge if he's fit enough would have to be the favourite to win.

Even if he's not fit by Wrestlemania, you could have come in at Number 30 and then just have him cut promos and get into little brawls up until Wrestlemania. That'll give him an extra 6 weeks of recovery time. By reports it seems that Edge is doing well, so I don't see why they can't bring him a little early and then just use him in promos for the rest of the 6 weeks up until Wrestlemania.

 

[honestbharani]

I dunno y ppl are so apprehensive about the big 3 winning.. For starters, nothing is decided yet and if indeed Orton wins the title, I am sure DeBiase would win the rumble somehow and we will have their match with DeBiase turning face..

I like the idea of Edge Vs Jericho as well, not sure it needs the title to be set up as big. UT/Cena could be big too without the title... Maybe the title match would come down to one between Batista and Mysterio and that won't be bad at all.. Throw in a HHH/HBK and Bret/Vince feud and they have a good card to work on for WM. I still think there is a chance that all 4 of the montreal incident participants will be involved in the finish again.. Maybe HBK/Bret Vs HHH/Vince with Earl Hebner as the ref with JR and King and Cole calling the match would be the way they go.. That way just about everyone who had been involved at some level in Montreal 12 years ago would still be there..


Not sure if Cole was there though, so forgive me that.

 

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