*Official* Pro-Wrestling Thread II

[OverratedSanity]

can someone tell me whether the Cena vs. Rock feud(s) were good? And was Rock tweener or heel?

It was weird. The promos got old after a while because it was the same childish insults over and over again. None of them were really positioned as the heel, although you could argue Rock costing Cena the match at Wm 27 made him heel...ish. Tweener then, I guess. The match at 28 is great because of the atmosphere and of course, the finish, but 29 was unnecessary and was plain bad.

Overall, the feud had it's moments (Rock's promo after his Survivor Series return was awesome) but got old really fast for me.

 

[GIMH]

29 wasn't bad IMO just perhaps unnecessary, and not a patch on the year before. But kinda feel Cena did need to get the win back for the whole era to be validated.

 

[OverratedSanity]

29's main event had Cena and Rock doing the my finisher countered into your finisher over and over and over again for 5 minutes straight. It was quite ridiculous to watch. The problem was that Rock was shot stamina-wise 10 minutes in and Cena, surprisingly for him, wasnt able to carry him to a good match.

My biggest beef with Cena v Rock at 29 was that it denied us Cena vs Punk. That feud deserved a WM main event. ****ing travesty.

 

[GIMH]

29's main event had Cena and Rock doing the my finisher countered into your finisher over and over and over again for 5 minutes straight. It was quite ridiculous to watch. The problem was that Rock was shot stamina-wise 10 minutes in and Cena, surprisingly for him, wasnt able to carry him to a good match.

My biggest beef with Cena v Rock at 29 was that it denied us Cena vs Punk. That feud deserved a WM main event. ****ing travesty.

It wasn't stamina, he was legit injured. I believe there were plans for a final rematch that were shelved because of it.

 

[OverratedSanity]

It wasn't stamina, he was legit injured. I believe there were plans for a final rematch that were shelved because of it.

Oh didn't know that. Did he get injured during the match? Well, props to the Rock then.

 

[andmark]

I didn't like how Rock ended Punk's 400 day title reign either tbh.

 

[OverratedSanity]

I'm really conflicted on that... On the one hand, it's a shame that one of the longest reigns of the modern era didn't climax at Wrestlemania, but then I'm ok that if it had to end, it was someone like the Rock who did it. I've heard people say that Punk losing to a part time guy was a shame, but that's just overthinking it imo. Guys like the Rock are above things like part-time and full-time.... he has credibility no matter what(helped greatly by the fact that he beat Cena the previous year) , and if it had to end, I'm glad it took the mother****ing Rock to come back and beat Punk.

 

[andmark]

Oh damn forgot about that. Dude looked better than 80% of the roster in the ring. Had a good followup match at Backlash v Jericho too.

Jericho hit the jackpot there as well considering he grew up idolising Steamboat and Steamboat was the best conditioned guy at that point and so could give Jericho what was probably a dream for him.

 

[GIMH]

Oh didn't know that. Did he get injured during the match? Well, props to the Rock then.

Dwayne Johnson, The Rock, Has Emergency Hernia Surgery After WrestleMania Clash With John Cena - Us Weekly

 

[OverratedSanity]

Jericho hit the jackpot there as well considering he grew up idolising Steamboat and Steamboat was the best conditioned guy at that point and so could give Jericho what was probably a dream for him.

Amazing to think Steamboat was 56 in that match. Moved like a 30 year old

 

[Goughy]

Not sure if I mentioned, but I'm taking my eight year old daughter (recently got into WWE, massive Cena fan and hates everyone associated with 'Team Authority' by virtue of having watched last year's survivor series over and over again on the network) to a house show in April. Not been to one since 2010 so looking forwards to it, what are they like now post-brand split? They usually give us decent cards in the UK with the bulk of the roster being over here I think.

I went to a house show last year and it was better than the Raw I went to previously. Obv they can give fun matches that dont fit with the TV narrative but it was great seeing Hogan and Flair involved. Other plus for you is that Eden is the ring announcer rather than Garcia.

 

[GIMH]

Yeah I believe Jericho has been working US house shows despite being off TV

The last one I went to had an absolute mint match between Rey and Punk that bettered anything they did on PPV. It was like they were just freed up to go out there and tear it up

 

[Mike5181]

It was weird. The promos got old after a while because it was the same childish insults over and over again. None of them were really positioned as the heel, although you could argue Rock costing Cena the match at Wm 27 made him heel...ish. Tweener then, I guess. The match at 28 is great because of the atmosphere and of course, the finish, but 29 was unnecessary and was plain bad.

Overall, the feud had it's moments (Rock's promo after his Survivor Series return was awesome) but got old really fast for me.

I found that feud really hard to watch. Initially I was excited that he was back, but he was a shadow of his former self. Same goes for the Punk feud.

 

[Goughy]

Have people seen this site before? Lonely Virgil. -- Dedicated to pictures of Virgil at events with no one visiting his stall.

 

[andmark]

Just came back from that Indy show. Some weird stuff. One heel had a go at a kid and his dad/grandad squared up to him. Similar stuff throughout the night. On the wrestling front, certainly the stiffest match was a match had one of the hardest choppers in the world... In a ****ing strap match. He slaughtered the guy, even doing a dragon suplex and later a tombstone pile driver on a chair. Good show.

 

[Jono]

A month late but watched/listened to Austin podcast with Triple H.

His first question to Trips is amazing about the Rumble - "its almost like kayfabe is died... now if the story doesn't go the way the people want they're mad at the writers... how can you book in a non kayfabe business these days"

Austin's become such a great interviewer on his show.

 

[Jono]

so weird seeing Austin and Trips talk about booking, and about Reigns being booed despite winning the Rumble etc.

 

[Jono]

OverratedSanity - Trips saying Punk being put with Nash in 2011 was done to make him more over. Thoughts? I obviously didn't watch that stuff, but that seems odd.

 

[Manee]

Started listening to Solomonster Sounds Off podcast on my iPhone, fairly entertaining.

 

[OverratedSanity]

OverratedSanity - Trips saying Punk being put with Nash in 2011 was done to make him more over. Thoughts? I obviously didn't watch that stuff, but that seems odd.

So how it went was, Punk made himself white hot in 2011 after that promo and the whole angle with Cena. Instead of being put into a truly high profile feud which would benefit everyone, hhh had himself and his buddy Nash into the storyline for no discernible reason other than to intentionally cool down Punk's immense momentum. Pretty much immediately after becoming the most exciting new champion in years (at mitb 2011), Punk lost the title via a cash in. Multiple times, Punk was powerbombed by Nash during matches and in ring segments and not once did Punk physically get to lay out Nash.

If that wasn't enough HHH actually ****ing beat Punk in a ppv match after not having wrestled a match in ages. And then he promptly went back into retirement (after beating both Punk and nash).

How any of this was supposed to 'get Punk over' is laughable. HHH was a ****ing **** who didn't like than Punk ascended to the top on his own, that's it. Thankfully Punk was so damn charismatic anyway that he was still as over with the audience as before.