*Official* Pro-Wrestling Thread II

[sledger]

I mean did the Undertaker ever make any sense?

No, of course not, but that was a gimmick originating in a very cartoons era and managed to last through a combo of Taker being great and "it just works". Debuting a supernatural gimmick in the so-called "reality era" is another thing altogether.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not writing it off just yet. They could make it work. But I absolutely hated The Fiend character, and this seems to be right out of the same book.

 

[sledger]

The OG Wyatt Family from NXT was the best iteration imo. I remember watching it as it was in free to air TV back in SA when I was in high school. Once they moved away from the lore being a cult to more supernatural elements it never worked.

Perhaps they needed an Undertaker replacement but the Taker character is so unique that we just accept that he can teleport/rise from the dead etc.

I liked the story behind the Fiend and the rest of Bray's stuff but nothing really fit into a pro wrestling show after the initial Shield feud.

On a side note,I never expected to like Cody as much as I do. I don't know how he does it but you buy him as a goody two shoes.

Nearly everyone (but particularly Rollins and Orton iirc,) who worked with The Fiend character has since come out and said they didn't like it at all and how they felt they went backwards as a result as well.

 

[Red_Ink_Squid]

Wyatts vs Shield was so good.

 

[sledger]

Yeah I was never a fan of any of the Wyatt incarnations tbh, but original Wyatt family was the best of the lot imo. Apart from that one promo he cut as "Wyndham" when he came back after being fired.

 

[Aritro]

Dynamite rated like 500k this week. Wtf is going on with them.

 

[Athlai]

Nearly everyone (but particularly Rollins and Orton iirc,) who worked with The Fiend character has since come out and said they didn't like it at all and how they felt they went backwards as a result as well.

It's also come out Vince was insisting on and loving the finishes of those matches. God only knows what he was thinking

 

[sledger]

It's also come out Vince was insisting on and loving the finishes of those matches. God only knows what he was thinking

Yeah, the Hell in a Cell with Rollins ending in a DQ was one of the signs that the old man really had completely lost his marbles for me (I mean he had lost most of them before that point TBF, but that one really was dire even by his standards).

 

[Bahseph]

Dynamite rated like 500k this week. Wtf is going on with them.

Have you watched any of their shows recently? Everything seems like it doesn't matter almost. You have WWE telling stories with Cody-Roman,Cody-Rock,The new Bloodline drama,Drew-Punk,Gable being a jerk,Liv and Dom....etc. AEW hasn't been building these stories for a long time. Everything feels hotshotted even when it isn't.

They have the roster to tell some really great stories but I don't know if Tony Khan is the right guy to do it. There is obviously way too much input from the wrestlers themselves. Byran Danielson is a great example to me. Everyone likes him and it's clear be wants to just put on good matches but are AEW using him the best way? Absolutely not. It's wild to me that he hasn't been AEW champ and only losing occasionally when it matters. Does beating him mean as much now as it did when he joined from WWE?

 

[sledger]

The loss of Cody, Omega and then, more recently, MJF really hurt their star power I think. The whole Elite taking over storyline doesn't really do it for me either. And their big acquisitions like Okada, Ospreay and Mercedes aren't exactly going to be household names to people who don't already like wrestling. And much as I love Jericho (he's probably my all-time fave) he really needs to go away for a while.

 

[sledger]

And the best thing about AEW in like forever has been Christian Cage. And don't get me wrong, he has been great. But I remember worrying about this when he signed them, as the last thing any aspiring wrestling company needs is for 50+ year old ex-WWE guys to become your main attraction.

 

[Bahseph]

Christian is a great example. People were invested in him because of his character. They wanted to see him beat. I've watched a couple of Ospreay matches but I don't get him the way I do MJF or peak Hangman.

 

[Athlai]

Reckon WWE being good for so long does most of the damage honestly. AEW really shouldn't have 3 shows

 

[sledger]

Reckon WWE being good for so long does most of the damage honestly. AEW really shouldn't have 3 shows

Yeah this is probably it tbh.

 

[Athlai]

Quite a cool time for wrestling. I should make an effort to watch the weekly shows as im pretty interested in a lot of the storylines.

Also tempted to make a fantasy booking draft on CW for WWE / AEW shows. Something like we pick who we think will get most "pushed" / "featured" on the card.

1 point for every win on Raw/Smackdown/Collison/Dynamite, 1 point for every main event appearance on those shows.
2 points for a PPV appearance, 4 for a PPV win, 5 points for a main event appearance on PPV.

 

[Athlai]

The rosters are fairly huge so could be a pretty big draft too.

 

[sledger]

Quite a cool time for wrestling. I should make an effort to watch the weekly shows as im pretty interested in a lot of the storylines.

Also tempted to make a fantasy booking draft on CW for WWE / AEW shows. Something like we pick who we think will get most "pushed" / "featured" on the card.

1 point for every win on Raw/Smackdown/Collison/Dynamite, 1 point for every main event appearance on those shows.
2 points for a PPV appearance, 4 for a PPV win, 5 points for a main event appearance on PPV.

Would play.

 

[sledger]

Would suggest AEW ppvs maybe count double though, given they aren't as frequent as WWE ones.

 

[Jarquis]

Would suggest AEW ppvs maybe count double though, given they aren't as frequent as WWE ones.

Have three times as many matches though

 

[Athlai]

Ill find somewhere with match cards and do the scores for the last few months so we have a general idea of what it will score like or if we need to adjust things

 

[Athlai]

Oh dang that's a really good way of showing us Bo again.