*Official* Pro-Wrestling Thread II

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He seems to be losing touch tbh. Weird reasoning though

:Vince complains that few people are grabbing the brass ring:
:Hates his best show:

 

[sledger]

Haha yeah, exactly.

 

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Tbf though, I don't think the WWE really ever did put all their eggs in one basket. Sure, Cena was defo the top of the top, in their eyes, but we must not forget that over the course of the last decade guys like Batista, HBK, Edge, Orton and to some extent Taker featured very heavily.

Edge held the world title more than anyone, for instance, and I think Batista mainevented more PPVs than anyone over a course of several years, so I don't think it's really fair to say the E didn't bother building up anyone else.

In addition to the guys you noted, I'd add CM Punk and Daniel Bryan to that list of guys who rose far up the card during Cena's time as top guy. Here's an rushed list of guys who went up during Hogan's time: Randy Savage, Ultimate Warrior, and to a lesser extent Bret Hart, Yokozuna and possibly Shawn Michaels. Already, Cena would appear to be more "egalitarian" (for lack of a better word). In addition Hogan main evented 7 (and got involved in the endings of two others) Wrestlemanias whilst Cena main evented four.

 

[andmark]

This guy's apparently signed with WWE

 

[sledger]

Will give it time to see how it pans out, but I am not really in favour of this Ziggler (et al) being fired angle. The guy is hotter than he has ever been, and is riding on a wave of momentum..so....they decide to just take him off TV and cancel all of his live appearances. Great.

Glad that Rollins has been added to the Royal Rumble main event though. Will add an interesting dynamic to a match that I had no interest in seeing for the hundreth time. Will be cool to see him work with Lesnar.

 

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Also, much as I have enjoyed Lesnar's return, I think enough is enough. They need to wind down his run for the benefit of all the full-time guys on the roster. Not sure there's much chance of that happening mind you, as I imagine he is still drawing pretty big.

 

[OverratedSanity]

Yeah the firing angle is silly. Not surprising that the WWE takes one of the most over guys in the roster and does something to bring his momentum to a halt. Why can't they just run with it ffs? You don't need to make ziggler the next cena, but keep him on tv when he's popular.

Also, much as I have enjoyed Lesnar's return, I think enough is enough. They need to wind down his run for the benefit of all the full-time guys on the roster. Not sure there's much chance of that happening mind you, as I imagine he is still drawing pretty big.

Yup. Lesnar's rare appearances so feel special in a way and the reaction when he comes out is always immense... He just has a aura about him that they've done well to build. But it does need to end.

If not I hope they atleast show him on tv more. Doesn't even need to be in the ring. Why not just show him working out like a crazy mofo in some sort of recorded montage video or show him and Heyman laughing about how they'll destroy their next opponent.

 

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He's bound to get more coverage in the run in to WM I guess. But yeah, on the whole, this has reached its zenith imo. They've handled the part time champion thing quite well, all things considered. But I don't think it can go on for much longer.

 

[andmark]

I've never been a fan of the Lesnar title reign given the lack of meritocracy to it. I mean to take recent champions, Cena, Bryan and Punk (probably missed some guys out). They were all there week after week. Then this guy comes along and has one mediocre match every 3-4 months. Doesn't seem right

 

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Every champion for the last ten years has been there week after week - it was compulsory. The reason why HBK only held the World Title once since he made his comeback was because he only worked TV shows, and not other live events.

Seems these days that policy has been abandoned, for better or worse.

 

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Pro Wrestling Illustrated Reveals Year-End Award Winners - WrestlingInc.com

Related to the above discussion is that article. The magazine found Brock Lesnar to be the wrestler of the year. I can't help but think that people are forgetting Daniel Bryan who's title win was simply better than the part time Lesnar. Or why not Rollins or maybe Ambrose? Lesnar has been mediocre this year in the little we've seen of him. In fact, Sami Zayn deserved it more than Lesnar as well. Poor decision.

GRRR typos!

 

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Pro Wrestling Illustrated Reveals Year-End Award Winners - WrestlingInc.com

Related to the above discussion is that article. The magazine found Brock Lesnar to be the wrestler of the year. I can't help but think that people are forgetting Daniel Bryan who's title win was simply better than the part time Lesnar. Or why not Rollins or maybe Ambrose. Lesnar has been mediocre this year in the little we've seen of him? Poor decision.

Tbf the magazine didn't decide this at all - it was the readers. They may well have forgotten about Bryan, but on the other hand, He's been out injured for the majority of the year, so I really think he is deserving of any "wrestler of the year" type accolade. Ambrose, Rollins or Ziggler would be better choices than either Bryan or Lesnar, for my money.

 

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Tbf the magazine didn't decide this at all - it was the readers. They may well have forgotten about Bryan, but on the other hand, He's been out injured for the majority of the year, so I really think he is deserving of any "wrestler of the year" type accolade. Ambrose, Rollins or Ziggler would be better choices than either Bryan or Lesnar, for my money.

Yeah, the "injured for half the year" argument was is quite possibly fair, but yeah Lesnar didn't deserve it

 

[Agent TBY]

A lot of people (including myself) have taken for granted that we've been building to Lesnar v Reigns, but how would you guys rate Rollins (c) v Reigns v Ambrose/Orton/Cena and Lesnar v Bryan?

It'd be itstl.

 

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A triple threat between all of the Shield would be good, as would Bryan vs Lesnar, but that might leave Cena and Orton facing off against each other again. And I'd have no interest in that whatsoever.

 

[OverratedSanity]

Literally anything except cena vs Orton, or cena vs lesnar would be great.

Think they'll definitely do the shield triple somewhere down the line. Wm 32 maybe. That's a monumental match... Needs a proper long build imo.

 

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The E higher ups have apparently cooled on Reigns over the last month or so, which is quite interesting, as it suggests to me that the winner of the Rumble is now considerably more difficult to predict.

I'm hoping it will be one of the better Rumbles in recent times, as there is now a good crop of guys who are all knocking on the door of the main event level, who could forseeably be given the nod. Reigns, Rollins, Ambrose, Bryan, Ryback, Ziggler, Rusev, Wyatt etc...

Edit: Obvs won't be Rollins I guess, since he's in the title match.

 

[andmark]

I'm up for Lesnar vs Bryan or a Shield Triple Threat. Would love to see Ziggler win the Rumble though

 

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Decent Hall of Fame news for those who can't wait for Raw

 

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