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*Official* Pro-Wrestling Thread II

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Athlai said:
From the perspective of someone who hasn't watched in years and started again recently.

Sheamus is Irish and looks quite Celtic Warriory.
Reigns has the Shield backstory and as my missus says "is bae"
Ryback looks like a monster.
Cesaro... spins people around sometimes?
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Don't buy this at all. "Irish" and "roided up" are not legitimate characteristics of a wrestler's personality. I could very well argue that Cesaro is an Italian badass with freakish strength who loves to swing people around. Which is what his character is. And what is should be portrayed as by the WWE. If you'd watched Cesaro's push from pre-Wrestlemania upto WM30 and the Andre the Giant Battle Royal, you wouldn't be saying this. He was booked extremely strong. He beat Orton clean (albeit on Smackdown), was in the Main event scene and no one was saying they had a problem taking him seriously. people bought him as a badass. But for some reason, WWE pushed him back down.

Athlai said:
I think you're confusing backstory for some kind of actual established traditional story. Lesnar's narrative is pretty clear. He is the beast. He broke the streak. Here comes the Pain.

Cesaro just doesn't give any lasting impression IMO. I've probably watched a half dozen of his matches now and I don't really care about him at all. There are plenty of solid ring workers out there who are more interesting than him.

Just needs something more to his character to take him seriously. And I'm almost entirely certain, that something isn't going to be a clean title reign.
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Which is basically=strong booking. Lesnar's run before he broke the streak was underwhelming as ****. Why? Because he got pinned by Cena. And HHH. This supposed monster was getting beaten handily. Sure, he still looked like a badass and you still bought him but the magic wasn't there. At all.

And I have no problem with you saying you don't care about Cesaro the character. I don't either. I agree they need some tweaks. But can you honestly say you care about Ryback and Sheamus? No one does. Sheamus is about the blandest thing imaginable in wrestling right now and yet people constantly talk about how Cesaro needs some huge change in character to "get to the next level". Just find it very very weird. People underestimate how much booking influences their perceptions of wrestlers.
 
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Shaemus gets actual crowd heat and is a pretty striking figure. Ryback gets massive feed me more chants. it isn't mecessarily Cesaros fault he isn't getting these things but the other midcard regulars have better gimmicks.

Lesnar is booked like a monster because he is one. Easily the most powerful wrestler ever. And that's how he was booked when he debuted as well.

I personally don't like these guys at all but these are the impressions of a guy coming back in to wrestling.
 
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Athlai said:
Shaemus gets actual crowd heat and is a pretty striking figure. Ryback gets massive feed me more chants. it isn't mecessarily Cesaros fault he isn't getting these things but the other midcard regulars have better gimmicks.

Lesnar is booked like a monster because he is one. Easily the most powerful wrestler ever. And that's how he was booked when he debuted as well.

I personally don't like these guys at all but these are the impressions of a guy coming back in to wrestling.
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But he is.
 
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God that is just pathetic.

"Choked out" being banned is ridiculous, **** the PG ****, but the "referee didn't see it" being banned is just nonsensical. Literally stupid.
 
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Next time Ziggler and Lana pash, Rusev should remind her that those lips were kissing Sheamus' arse not too long ago. Can't stand this angle.
 
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Spikey

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everything to do with talking to the audience is the worst. all the question stuff ffs
 
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So the commentators have to "Fully understand the history and heritage of the business as it gives what we are doing today more credibility" but also can't refer to Wrestlemania as the granddaddy of them all because it makes it feel "old"? and presumably they'll do away with the numbering as well? wtf Vince?

Jono said:
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God that is just pathetic.

"Choked out" being banned is ridiculous, **** the PG ****, but the "referee didn't see it" being banned is just nonsensical. Literally stupid.
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Not surprised about the choking thing. DB legit got fired by WWE once when he pretended to choke someone in a wrestling angle.
 
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Yeah they did. Which is kinda baffling because Vince wants the "history" of WWE to be celebrated but simultaneously feels that Wrestlemania being 30 years old is a bad thing. The guy's a conflicted weirdo.
 
duffer

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Anyone watch Main Event this week? It's clear Cesaro is being pushed now. Haters can taste it.
 
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Poor kidd though :(

Also, I really hope they do a Cena-Owens-Cesaro triple threat for the belt soon. Could be all kinds of awesome.
 
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should do a triple threat on next week's Raw. Not sure I'd like it to see it on a PPV. Like the match would be awesome on PPV, but I worry about the booking aftermath. I am firm in my belief that Cesaro should be thrown into the IC and win that.
 
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OverratedSanity said:
Not surprised about the choking thing. DB legit got fired by WWE once when he pretended to choke someone in a wrestling angle.
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I was looking at the timing of this thing the other day, and this happened mid 2010 iirc, and the don't say choke rule seems to have written after DB got fired. When I was reading then blogs talking about DB being fired, some people suggested VKM knew DB was gonna pretend choke, because it was Raw and VKM always knows what's gonna happen, but fired him because it caused a big fuss. And then wrote that rule about never saying choke I guess
 
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